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On 22/01/2021 19:20, bill w wrote:<br>
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me what's wrong with these data? bill w</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at
12:26 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a
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Spike wrote:<br>
> With masks in particular, data accumulates showing they
don't really do much, if anything. We are seeing plenty of
evidence in Florida, comparing counties which require masks
with those which do not. It isn't at all clear they help
slow infection rates.<br>
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Well, there's masks and there's masks. The word includes
everything from <br>
a closely-fitted medical mask with a filter that is probably
pretty <br>
effective, to a flimsy piece of cloth or paper with no seal
at all with <br>
the wearer's skin, which is completely ineffective. Not to
mention that <br>
if people have to be told to wear their masks around their
noses as well <br>
as their mouths, or "Don't wear your mask on your chin", you
can be <br>
pretty sure that a lot of them might as well not be wearing
any mask at <br>
all. I've stopped noticing the people wearing masks with big
gaps <br>
between their cheeks and the mask, but I'd say that probably
most people <br>
who wear them might as well not be.<br>
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Just as with statistics about deaths, statistics about masks
are pretty <br>
useless. At least as useless as the masks themselves,
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Absolutely nothing, as it stands.<br>
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The problem is, it's talking about a situation that doesn't exist. A
hypothetical situation in which people are all wearing
double-layered cloth masks (far from the truth, certainly where I
live), properly (also far from the truth), and consistently
following proper sterile technique (laughably far from the truth).<br>
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So while there's nothing wrong with the article in theory,
theoretical is exactly what it is, and it's theory breaks down
instantly in the real world, because it's assumptions are wrong.<br>
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Ben Zaiboc</pre>
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