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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>People seem to crave conflict on a fundamental level. There is an evolutionary incentive for this. Passive animals tend to be overtaken by more aggressive ones. In a limited resource environment animals are incentivized to compete. I suspect that our DNA will have to be altered if lasting peace is to be achieved. I think nurture can only do so much against strong incentives programmed into our DNA.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Even then there is an inherent instability to peace. Imagine a group of peaceful societies. The formation of a single aggressive bad egg society can force the others to resort to violence in order to protect themselves. The “peaceful” societies would be forced to build up defenses against the aggressive one or even to attack outright. One violent agent can force numerous others to the same vice. Aggression is a self-perpetuating cycle. I’m not sure this chain reaction can be stopped. One may as well call it a law of life.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">Ivor Brians via extropy-chat</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, February 7, 2021 2:20 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:ipbrians@gmail.com">Ivor Brians</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[ExI] Fundamental Concept</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The group offered in my opinion, some good answers, especially,<o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Forgiveness 2) Access for all to unlimited resources. <o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Some years ago, I started pondering why things are the way they are, why they aren’t better, and how we might change this. Initially I came up with about 10 items which I felt, if practiced, would eliminate strife and war. As I continued pondering, I added more to the list and then continued to drill down on each of them to reveal the most fundamental aspect of each. Many overlapped and some, if practiced would eliminate the need for others. I realized humanity would resist the most fundamental so, I looked for temporary solutions, and this added more items. Until recently I had 15 items. Of these, I felt the most fundamental one which could possibly be addressed, was our tendency to form groups (I’ve since come up with what I feel is a more fundamental concept which I will post later).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>From the draft of a webpage I plan to post: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>“2. INCLUSIVENESS - moving beyond WE vs THEY<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Banding together in a hostile world, we formed groups. Today, for the most part, our environment is no longer dangerous. The main exception comes from our own kind and springs from the exclusion of others, a self-perpetuating practice. If only we can see The Family of Man as one group, I believe it would be the end of most struggle, strife and war.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is more to this of course. And from a practical point, people will resist giving up their group identity. I realize there are fundamental things driving the formation of groups (which I will post later). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am interested in your input.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ivor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>