<div dir="ltr"><div>In the classic alien invasion novel, "When Heaven Fell," a human janissary slave is shocked to learn that the godlike AI who conquered Earth, were created by the very small pig-like species that handles basic maintenance tasks. It took them eons to develop their technology and get to a singularity, but they finally got there only to immediately lose control. <br></div><div><br></div><div>The initial "alien invasion" in the mid 21st century was basically an alien A.I. scout ship with a few thousand dinosaur merc shock troops who invaded the Earth, and caused massive damage before being just barely repelled. Humanity was able to calculate that in roughly seventy years, the invaders could be back with a much larger display of power, and so the entire resources of the planet were used to create a massive global defense force. But despite their best efforts, an invasion force of over a dozen huge ships appeared when expected, and after a ferocious fight that killed off 2/3 of humanity, the invaders conquered Earth. They were quite impressed by human fighting spirit and ingenuity, and so they allowed worthy homo sapiens to join their janissary forces, which included a variety of races. <br></div><div><br></div><div>The novel may be the grittiest alien conquest of Earth sf novel ever written. It shows the extreme degradation caused by a conqueror that does not care about any form of conventional human morality. But it does actually end on a hopeful note.<br></div><div><br></div><div>John<br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:23 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_910903416075800868WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 22, 2021 9:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] 30 Solutions to the Fermi Paradox<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">Suppose that the new alien race is a bit smarter than we are. That reminds me of a scifi story in which aliens land here with their very advanced technology. But they have been civilized for tens of thousands of years. It turns out that on our scale their average IQ is about 80, and humans start selling them the Brooklyn Bridge and so on. Maybe we'll be the ones to buy the stupid things from the aliens - their version of the Brooklyn Bridge. bill </span>w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">That is kinda sorta the idea with the Borg from Star Trek: hive mind advanced so far that the individuals lost all autonomy and everything we think of as intelligence. Picard accidentally killed one of them, a coupla Borglets saw, had no concept of murder or justice, they just scooped up the body and walked off with it to the morgue, no alarm, no nothing. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">You couldn’t sell “individuals” anything of course, because they didn’t think as an individual or have any money. So if you were somehow beamed aboard, you might as well forget making a buttload and spend your time looking for the other 8 of whatever 7 of 9 was one of. I bet those were some awesome space babe sisters.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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