<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:14pt"> I got my vaccination today. No side effects yet.<font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p><font color="#888888" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">spike I had no side effects after my second shot, but my wife got a migraine after her second. (she is prone to headaches - I am not) bill w</span></p></font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:25 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_4587328526438015049WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Grigg via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] new covid case rates<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">>…When will President Biden create a federal mandate to have one set of strict rules for the entire nation?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Never. He would if he could. He doesn’t have the authority to do that. But Biden doesn’t create federal law. Congress does. Then the Supreme Court has to buy in. So… to answer your question: never.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">>…</span><span style="font-size:14pt">This long-standing piecemeal approach to containing the virus in America is ridiculous!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">But trying to do anything at the national level is far more ridiculous and dangerous. There are no possible rules that would work for both New York City and Wyoming.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">As it turns out, that is a big enough challenge for states. Well, too big actually. California tried, but their attempt was mostly a failure. They passed the authority on down to the counties. That kinda approach mostly failed too. For instance, if county rules are ignored, what then? Consider the Tesla factory up the street. The county demanded Musk shut it down. He opened it up. They weren’t going to risk pissing off their money cow. So… the county backed down. Elon kept turning out electric cars. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">At the county level, who has the authority to do anything to flagrant violators? The sheriff? She can’t enforce that which isn’t a law. Only the state legislature can pass laws. They didn’t. So… there was no law, and still isn’t.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Law isn’t the way to go against disease in times when existing law isn’t being enforced. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">>I suppose the hope is that when enough people are vaccinated, that the pandemic will finally go away, or at least be ignorable. John<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">We developed a bunch of new technologies to create vaccines and distribute them. I got my vaccination today. No side effects yet.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:09 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Not trying to start a discussion, but the data on this link is interesting.....<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/" target="_blank">https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:00 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-right:none currentcolor;border-bottom:none currentcolor;border-left:none currentcolor;border-top:1pt solid currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] new covid case rates<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">I seem to recall an aerial photo you sent me with the prices of the houses on it. I assumed that it was an area you lived in - correct? If so you are definitely urban. Rural houses have much more distance between houses. This assumes that I know something about urban sociology (but I don't) bill </span>w</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Ja. If here is urban, then most of the US population is urban. What we need is to somehow divide the population down the middle, if that can be done. But even that is very ambiguous, because people travel. It isn’t the housing density that matters as much as the population density in the houses. Many urbanites seldom go outdoors, but many rural dwellers travel every day to the city.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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