<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font size="4"><span class="gmail-im"><p class="MsoNormal">Spike wrote:<br></p><p class="MsoNormal">"Regarding statistics: things
change. Because of the verdict in today’s trial, life in the USA just
became dramatically more dangerous. Police everywhere in the USA will
be seriously rethinking their career choices. We can easily anticipate
that plenty of them will say adios amigo to the force. Result: they
will be less likely to come to your aid in a timely manner should the
bad guy come to visit. One can scarcely blame them: their job was
already dangerous enough. Add to that the legal liability in the event
they make a mistake, law enforcement is a lousy career choice."</p></span></font><span class="gmail-im"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4">I don't understand... Why will cops everywhere be seriously rethinking their career choices? If you are a decent cop who does not brutalize and murder people, you will most likely be okay. It is the bad cops who may be rethinking their profession... Keep in mind that for the limited amount of education required, police work generally pays fairly well. And so quitting and finding an equally good job would be hard for many. Finally, policing is statistically not as dangerous as many people assume.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><br></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4">John</font><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p></span>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:13 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 13:47, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat<br><b>…</b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>….I don’t see why you should leave out suicide; if you have an argument with your spouse and then shoot yourself in the head, that is a serious problem.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Stathis Papaioannou<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I do see why that should be a separate category. Suicide accounts for a large percentage of death by firearm. If I decide I want to end it all, then that is my choice. It isn’t the fault of the gun or the fact that I have one. There are legitimate reasons why people make that choice, and I respect their choice. Of all the ways to finish oneself, I would think that method would be the least painful.</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Impulsive suicide is not really the same as, say, deciding to end your life because you have a terminal illness. I have seen many patients over the year who attempted suicide by overdose, woke up in hospital a few hours later, said they felt silly and went home. If they had put a gun in their mouth and pulled the trigger, the outcome would have been different.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" dir="auto"></p><p class="MsoNormal">Regarding statistics: things change. Because of the verdict in today’s trial, life in the USA just became dramatically more dangerous. Police everywhere in the USA will be seriously rethinking their career choices. We can easily anticipate that plenty of them will say adios amigo to the force. Result: they will be less likely to come to your aid in a timely manner should the bad guy come to visit. One can scarcely blame them: their job was already dangerous enough. Add to that the legal liability in the event they make a mistake, law enforcement is a lousy career choice.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Result: we the people need to be ready to carry out homeland security ourselves. But this carries at least one advantage: far faster response time.</p></div></div></div><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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