<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Anyone catch 60 Minutes last week?Talked to Luis Elizondo about the AATIP program. Worth searching for if you missed it. -Henry</div><h2 class="result__title js-result-title" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: DDG_ProximaNova, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_0, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_1, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_2, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_3, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_4, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_5, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_6, "Proxima Nova", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, "Segoe UI", "Nimbus Sans L", "Liberation Sans", "Open Sans", FreeSans, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: 1.15; font-size: 1.31em; vertical-align: middle; position: static; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; caret-color: rgb(64, 64, 64); color: rgb(64, 64, 64); -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><br></h2><h2 class="result__title js-result-title" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: DDG_ProximaNova, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_0, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_1, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_2, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_3, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_4, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_5, DDG_ProximaNova_UI_6, "Proxima Nova", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, "Segoe UI", "Nimbus Sans L", "Liberation Sans", "Open Sans", FreeSans, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: 1.15; font-size: 1.31em; vertical-align: middle; position: static; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; caret-color: rgb(64, 64, 64); color: rgb(64, 64, 64); -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"></h2><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite">On May 21, 2021, at 11:26 AM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mike Dougherty <msd001@gmail.com> <br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…"...That's what we need! More frogs and dogs and bears and chickens and ... and whatever!" Wise words from a frog indeed. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I miss Jim Henson. He voiced many of the early muppets but Kermit was very close to Jim’s normal voice. When you hear an interview with him, his intonation and even attitudes are a lot like when Kermit was the MC of the Muppet Show.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Seriously though, language shapes how/what we think (and CAN think) and what we think is conveyed by language. I know the vanguards of old ways refuse to accept language evolution. I understand. However, we need to continue evolution in language to keep up with evolution in thought. I think this is oft-overlooked in transhumanist anti aging conversations. Sure, we need to fix the physical breakdown of biology... but after that we might have effectively immortal old-thinking. That is an interesting problem space to consider solutions… Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Well said, Mike. We have seen how language has failed us repeatedly in many areas of discussion on ExI. To quote the old song, we tried to talk it over but the words got in the way. We know what we math guys and science geeks do: retreat into our safe space, that sublime, supremely unambiguous and well-defined sub-language we geeks know so well, but which also fails to achieve adequacy in some domains of human thought. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I admire those who continue to work on those slippery, ethereal concepts, working through the inherent difficulty in having to communicate it over a severely limited bandwidth channel by funneling it into a language unprepared to accommodate its subtleties.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">We need NewSpeak. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>extropy-chat mailing list</span><br><span>extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</span><br><span>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>