<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I read where the CDC is not telling us all the data. Whether that comes from a reliable source, I have no idea. I would like to know if anyone knows, just what the percentage of vaccinated adults have had serious side effects.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">You say that a vaccinated person has a lower chance of passing it on, right? But it really does not matter to me - I have to wear the mask everywhere regardless. Well, not outside. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:52 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Reducing the death rates among those with pre-existing conditions is worthy, if it reduces the rates enough.<div><br></div><div>This also reduces their chances of catching it and similar (variants) in some years once they've grown up.</div><div><br></div><div><div>Perhaps most importantly to some, having them vaccinated reduces the chances of them retransmitting it to adults.</div><div><br></div></div><div>So there are still good reasons to vaccinate children.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 9:48 AM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Here's another reason they have hesitancy...Public health agencies have lost credibility by not actually "following the science." Not a single child in the US under the age of 18 has died of CV-19 without a serious pre-existing condition like leukemia. And yet, the CDC continues to parrot Big Pharma talking points urging for all kids to be vaccinated despite the risk of death for them from CV-19 being essentially ZERO, and the risks of a young person taking a CV-19 vaccine and having serious side effects are not zero.<div><br></div><div>Johns Hopkins Team: There Are Still Zero COVID Deaths Among Healthy Kids<br>Rather than acknowledge science, Dr. Makary says the CDC continues to use 'flimsy evidence' to push the COVID vaccine upon children.<br>Audrey Unverferth<br><br>A team of Johns Hopkins researchers recently reported that there have been zero COVID deaths among healthy kids, but the Centers for Disease Control doesn’t care.<br><br>Dr. Marty Makary is a medical expert and professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Bloomberg School of Public Health, and Carey Business School. His research team “worked with the nonprofit FAIR Health to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with Covid in health-insurance data from April to August 2020.”<br><br>After studying comprehensive data on thousands of children, the team “found a mortality rate of zero among children without a pre-existing medical condition such as leukemia.” Rather than acknowledge this scientific reality, Makary says the CDC continues to use “flimsy evidence” to push the COVID vaccine upon children.<br><br>As Makary noted in the Wall Street Journal on Monday, the implications of his team’s research are huge. “[If our research] holds, it has significant implications for healthy kids and whether they need two vaccine doses,” Makary says. After all, “The National Education Association has been debating whether to urge schools to require vaccination before returning to school in person. How can they or anyone debate the issue without the right data?”<br><br>Makary’s question is obvious, but no less timely. Makary says inflated COVID death counts continue to be corrected and “revised downward.”<br><br>But rather than combat institutional distrust with scientific data and discussion, Makary says the CDC is avoiding transparency and rigorous inquiry. He slammed the agency on Monday, saying it “overcounts Covid hospitalizations and deaths and won’t consider if one shot is sufficient.” According to Makary, this problem is systemic. <br><br>Makary says “a tremendous number of government and private policies” regarding the vaccination of children are dependent upon one questionable data point. The CDC claims 335 children under the age of 18 have died with a COVID diagnosis in their record. However, Makary reports that, “the CDC, which has 21,000 employees, hasn’t researched each death to find out whether Covid caused it or if it involved a pre-existing medical condition.”<br><br>“Without these data, the CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices decided in May that the benefits of two-dose vaccination outweigh the risks for all kids 12 to 15,” Makary notes. “I’ve written hundreds of peer-reviewed medical studies, and I can think of no journal editor who would accept the claim that 335 deaths resulted from a virus without data to indicate if the virus was incidental or causal, and without an analysis of relevant risk factors such as obesity.” <br><br>According to Makary, the CDC defies medical research norms, by propagating a “flimsy” claim without sufficient research or transparency. And this isn’t an isolated incident. Makary illustrates that it’s part of a pattern. <br><div><br></div><div><a href="https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/21/johns-hopkins-team-there-are-still-zero-covid-deaths-among-healthy-kids/" target="_blank">https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/21/johns-hopkins-team-there-are-still-zero-covid-deaths-among-healthy-kids/</a><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 4:12 PM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:53 AM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Here's part of the answer to the question of whypeople don't get the vaccine:</div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://news.yahoo.com/unvaccinated-americans-say-covid-vaccines-are-riskier-than-virus-even-as-delta-surges-among-them-090056685.html" target="_blank">https://news.yahoo.com/unvaccinated-americans-say-covid-vaccines-are-riskier-than-virus-even-as-delta-surges-among-them-090056685.html</a> bill w<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Y</span>et more evidence that they are<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <b>STUPID</b>.</span> </font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div>
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