<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">But hear this: Facebook and all the rest are private companies and can ban anything they want to, so while we may think it's a bad idea, it's not unconstitutional bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 12:08 AM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I think the bans are both morally wrong and increase extremism, so doubly terrible ideas. <br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 4, 2021, at 9:08 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Except for National Defense secrets, I don't think that anything ought to be censored. Free speech is not supposed to kill anyone. Sure, you will always have your crazies, but can you shut them up? Should you shut them up? Holler back, I say - let them have their say. Remember that at the time of our Revolution the majority of our people wanted to stay with the King of England. Later many wanted Washington to be a king. The majority opinion is not always right, nor the minority always wrong. How many people believe these things is not the issue. It's their right to speak up about our country just like anyone else. Coarse, crude, limited vocabulary and all that. If you let it hurt you it's your fault. Do you believe that? bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 7:50 PM BillK via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 at 00:55, SR Ballard via extropy-chat<br>
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> Today BAP (Bronze Age Pervert), a right wing influencer, was banned from Twitter, which has caused a bit or an uproar in the community. The creation and dissemination of media projects and memes, testimonials, eulogies increased exponentially. His ideas are being discussed more, and his iconography and catchphrases are ubiquitous. His dedicated fans have joined his telegram channel, over 10K in 12 hours.<br>
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> Do you feel these types of social media suspensions achieve their desired results? If not, what might be more effective?<br>
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> SR Ballard<br>
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There is a new report out about this.<br>
<<a href="https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/924295" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/924295</a>><br>
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Quote:<br>
NEWS RELEASE 3-AUG-2021<br>
Study shows users banned from social platforms go elsewhere with<br>
increased toxicity<br>
BINGHAMTON UNIVERSITY<br>
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Researchers developed a method to identify accounts belonging to the<br>
same person on different platforms and found that being banned on<br>
Reddit or Twitter led those users to join alternate platforms such as<br>
Gab or Parler where the content moderation is more lax.<br>
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Also among the findings is that, although users who move to those<br>
smaller platforms have a potentially reduced audience, they exhibit an<br>
increased level of activity and toxicity than they did previously.<br>
“The hardcore group, maybe the group that we’re most concerned about,<br>
are the ones that probably stick with someone if they move elsewhere<br>
online. If by reducing that reach, you increase the intensity that the<br>
people who stay around are exposed to, it’s like a quality versus<br>
quantity type of question. Is it worse to have more people seeing this<br>
stuff? Or is it worse to have more extreme stuff being produced for<br>
fewer people?”<br>
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