<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Libertarianism, like any political stance including moderates, works best in moderation.<font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></p><font color="#888888" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike</p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>Well said - nobody at any time of life is totally free of everything (including one's body, which has a mind of its own - and, of course, your mind has a mind of its own too). If we all followed our id it would be far worse than anarchy. Down deep inside is a terrible, totally selfish killing machine, ready to take anything it wants when it wants it, which is when it becomes aware of the impulse. </i></b><b><i>This is the basis of horror movies and a lot more. </i></b><b><i>In most people the impulses leak out a little at a time, like letting your finger go just a tad to release air from a balloon. (Your finger is your superego and ego.)</i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><br></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>In some psychotics, what they are mostly afraid of is their id just letting go and running wild. They think this because they have lost some control over what is in their mind, like hallucinations, and they fear a lot more coming out. bill w </i></b></p></font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 6:02 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>SR Ballard via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] libertarian city - from Quora<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Sorry spike, you’re not IRL til I meet you IRL. On the internet no one knows you’re a cat. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">SR Ballard<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Oh, ja, there is that. But it is a good thing. Perhaps you saw the Bugs Bunny episode Hot Cross Bunny where that mad scientist switches the brains of Bugs and a chicken. That was made in 1948, back in the days when society still had a collective sense of humor. It made fun of Nazis in a vaguely subtle way, while simultaneously providing the clever turnabout for which Bugs is well-known and giving us the classic phrase “I don’t wanna be no chicken!”<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">If you saw Hot Cross Bunny (apologies to the younger generation among us (which is nearly everyone here except Billw and me (for missing all the politically incorrect fun))) you know where I got the inspiration to build my own Hot Cross Bunny machine. A stray cat was the only easily available lifeform. After the switch, the cat, in my flesh, bolted in terror and hasn’t been seen since. So here am I, a cat.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">However, this is not such a bad thing. I am a really cool cat.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Libertarianism, like any political stance including moderates, works best in moderation.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">On Aug 11, 2021, at 5:38 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>SR Ballard via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] libertarian city - from Quora<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Taxation is theft tho? That’s what all the IRL libertarians tell me. They all reject the idea of the social contract. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">SR Ballard<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am an IRL libertarian. I am not telling you that. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">On Aug 11, 2021, at 4:12 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>SR Ballard via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 11, 2021 1:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> SR Ballard <<a href="mailto:sen.otaku@gmail.com" target="_blank">sen.otaku@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] libertarian city - from Quora<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">> still have taxes<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Uh, that doesn't sound very libertarian. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">SR Ballard<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">It is. Without taxes there can be no infrastructure and no law enforcement. Without law enforcement, there is no law. This is anarchy, not libertarianism.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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