<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">OK Ballard - you come up with a fair way to pay the people whose creativity and sweat produced the songs. bill w</div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:04 AM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">So the library pays $9.99 and tens of thousands can listen, how is that any different than piracy, assuming one person pays for the album? <div><br></div><div>I can also listen to a friend’s CD as many times as I like. </div><div><br></div><div>It’s illogical. <br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:33 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span>SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(34,34,34)">I just don’t understand how pirating a CD and listening to it at the library are any functionally different. </span>The library paid for it. When a radio station plays a song they have to send money to ASCAP (I think - something like that) bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 8:22 PM <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 15, 2021, at 5:29 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Honest as the day is long: me. Mr. Morality. Now when all this computer stuff really got going, and you could download music and not pay for it, it ruffled my feathers: the musicians were being cheated. This was wrong (and is still wrong). I discussed this with some of my classes, and they could seem to find no moral problem here: if they could do it, they did it - a full apple tree with no farmer around - whatta ya expect? I am still disappointed in those students robbing the people who were giving them so much pleasure. It did teach me more than I knew at the time about people. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:47 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:51 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><span style="font-size:large">Things seem to be getting worse instead of better. Farmers can't
fix their own broken tractors, musicians are afraid to make
music for fear of being sued, you can end up in jail for taking
apart your games console..</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>For what it's worth, there are legislative efforts to fix the first of those (look up "right to repair"), and the last is apparently no longer a thing if it ever was. As to musicians - only very certain specifics of music; bands are making music every day all across the USA with no fear of the courtroom.</div></div></div>
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