<div dir="ltr"><div>SR Ballard wrote:</div>"Pirating doesn’t “steal a book”. It was never printed. The costs of me reading this book I don’t own are exactly the same as if I don’t read it. Stealing a book means someone paid to print that copy and now can’t sell it. I have never done something like that." <br><div><br></div><div>I wonder if anyone has made a sf comedy short film about an advanced "pirating" technology where just about anything can be scanned with a tricorder like device, and then copied with a transporter style home appliance? In the story, two feuding neighbors have a on-going conversation about the legalities and ethics involving pirating, even as one of them goes nuts making copies of just about anything he can scan and recreate at home! The conclusion has the pirating neighbor covertly making a copy of his neighbor's wife, which results in a woman who automatically leaves him and reunites with her husband, who now has two wives! Lol The final scene has the pirate being arrested by the police, as he admits to finally having gone too far. </div><div><br></div><div>John : )</div><div> </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 4:35 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Pirating doesn’t “steal a book”. It was never printed. The costs of me reading this book I don’t own are exactly the same as if I don’t read it. Stealing a book means someone paid to print that copy and now can’t sell it. I have never done something like that. <br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 6:33 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">It all depends on how it was obtained. A library book and a stolen book: both you did not pay for. But a huge difference. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 5:10 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">There’s literally no difference between reading a copy of a book you didn’t pay for, and reading a copy of a book you didn’t pay for. And no difference between listening to a song you didn’t purchase, and listening to a song you didn’t purchase. <br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Dave Sill via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 8:27 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">So the difference between two things, in your opinion is nothing. But I have to pretend their different because idiots made some law.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, there's a distinct difference between borrowing a legal copy and making an illegal one. If you don't see that, I'm sorry, but that's not my problem. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>You also feel it would be best if I never listened to new music or read new books, because of a difference you cannot explain. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Don't put words in my mouth, please. I think it's better if most people follow the law. I don't personally care what you do.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>And because I never listen to or read anything new, I will never buy new albums or books, and thus I will provide even less income to these people, than I would if I read them and then purchased them.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Join a library. Listen to the radio. Buy a computer or phone that allows you to play youtube videos or listen to radio stations and podcasts. Borrow from friends.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>So yes, let me avoid all this “piracy” and actually contribute even less money to creators than if I did pirate. That makes so much sense. <br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sounds to me like you're trying to rationalize your actions. That's fine by me. Do whatever it takes to feel good about yourself. I've ripped a CD or two in my life. Content producers know that this happens at the individual level and that preventing it is impossible. But when something like Napster comes along that really does impact them and is an easy legal target, it will get taken down.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave</div></div></div>
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