<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><div class="gmail-gs" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 20px;width:681.143px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:medium"><div class="gmail-"><div id="gmail-:1wa" class="gmail-ii gmail-gt gmail-adO" style="font-size:0.875rem;direction:ltr;margin:8px 0px 0px;padding:0px"><div id="gmail-:1wb" class="gmail-a3s gmail-aiL" style="overflow:hidden;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:small;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>But expressing that pride...that's just arrogance.</div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><b>-Dave  I don't wave the flag or put one out July 4th, but I won't say </b></div><div><b>that people who do are arrogant.  Whether it's pride or arrogance depends on how it is expressed. bill w</b></div></font></div></div><div class="gmail-yj6qo gmail-ajU" style="outline:none;padding:10px 0px;width:22px;margin:2px 0px 0px"><div id="gmail-:1kx" class="gmail-ajR" role="button" tabindex="0" aria-label="Show trimmed content" aria-expanded="false" style="background-color:rgb(232,234,237);border:none;clear:both;line-height:6px;outline:none;width:24px;border-radius:5.5px"><img class="gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif" style="background: url("https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/more_horiz_black_20dp.png") 50% 50% / 20px no-repeat; height: 11px; opacity: 0.7; width: 24px;"></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail-hi" style="border-bottom-left-radius:1px;border-bottom-right-radius:1px;padding:0px;width:auto;background:rgb(242,242,242);margin:0px"></div></div></div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 1:28 PM Dave Sill via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 9:39 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">However, some arrogance is earned, isn't it?  No, I don't like arrogance at all, but a pride in the accomplishments of the USA is deserved.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Having pride in the accomplishments of one's country is OK, I suppose, though I think real pride would come more from having an active role in these accomplishments rather than a twist of fate.</div><div><br></div><div>But expressing that pride...that's just arrogance.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave</div></div></div>
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