<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-06/sweden-halts-moderna-s-covid-vaccine-for-people-aged-30-or-under">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-06/sweden-halts-moderna-s-covid-vaccine-for-people-aged-30-or-under</a> bill w<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 12:26 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_4753460089375787009WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Covid Vaccines<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>>>… Which is apparently also a risk in humans also.<br><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html" target="_blank">https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html</a>... Stuart<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>>… That seems like the sort of thing that would have been good to know before they had hundreds of thousands of nurses of wildly varying skill levels administer it to a billion people… Darin<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Yes, that would be nice, wouldn't it, but we don't live in a sane world right now. I would seriously doubt most of the people administering vaccinations are aspirating first to ensure they haven't hit a blood vessel… Also would have been nice not to brutally suppress online discussion of these issues too…Darin<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The last sentence of the Darin quote above really has my wheels spinning. There is good evidence that online discussion of the risks of the vaccine were labeled vaccine misinformation and suppressed. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Consider again this diagram:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="348" height="284" style="width: 3.625in; height: 2.9583in;" id="gmail-m_4753460089375787009Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:17c5bd34a0f4ce8e91"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Now this report will explain why it is that people who have gotten vaccinations for many years with never any ill effects may run as high a risk as anyone else, for we hadn’t thought of that mechanism. We had reliable reports of healthy young people developing myocarditis after getting the vax, but the internet didn’t like those cases being discussed.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Now it comes down to how long we believe the vaccination confers protection. I was led to believe it was 2 to 5 years. But later reports suggest we still don’t know that. Israel was a heavy early vaccinator It changes the risk/benefit ratio of the conferred immunity is significantly shorter than we thought. This Israeli data might suggest the immunity from the vaccine might be short-lived, which really does impact the risk/benefit ratio:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="479" height="304" style="width: 4.9895in; height: 3.1666in;" id="gmail-m_4753460089375787009_x0000_i1026" src="cid:17c5bd34a0f772f6c2"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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