<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 at 10:35, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-2823798510646571180WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 24, 2021 4:05 PM<br><br><b><u></u><u></u></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">right up front, not as permissions but as acknowledgment of rights.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>>…It is dangerous indeed to imply that the Bill of Rights can be rethought or legally infringed.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…You do realise that “rights” are human inventions, just like laws and morals are?<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Stathis Papaioannou<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Ja, I consider rights to be humanity’s third greatest invention, right behind fire and sex. Granted there are those who argue those first two are sufficiently similar to count as one, so human rights move into second place.</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>At one point humans decided that sex between people of the same gender deserved death by fire, but now many don't, because they no longer think it is a good idea. <br></div><div><br></div><div>
<span class="gmail-markedContent" id="gmail-page3R_mcid13"><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">1328 </span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">–</span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr"> </span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">Paragraph 132 of the German</span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr"> </span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">Law Book for Town and Country</span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr"> </span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">calls for burning</span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr"> </span><br role="presentation"><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">at the stake all lesbians and gay m</span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">en (“those who mix with the same sex”). In practice, a </span><br role="presentation"><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">milder sentence is at times meted out, especially to aristocrats: rapid execution </span><br role="presentation"><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">(decapitation by sword) followed by burning. In most cases, all documents concerning </span><br role="presentation"><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">the trial are also burned to expun</span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">ge every trace of the deed, whose very mention is </span><br role="presentation"><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">labeled sinful. Sodomy, a word not to be uttered among Christian folk, is linked with </span><br role="presentation"><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr">heresy.</span><span style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif" role="presentation" dir="ltr"></span></span> <br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.gsafewi.org/wp-content/uploads/German-Timeline-Student-Teacher-Copy-UPDATED.pdf">https://www.gsafewi.org/wp-content/uploads/German-Timeline-Student-Teacher-Copy-UPDATED.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>This demonstrates that what is invented by humans can be changed by humans; unlike the number of sides on a triangle, or the mass of the proton, which weren't invented by humans and so can't be changed by humans.<br></div><div><br> </div><div><br></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Stathis Papaioannou</div></div>