<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Ah, Yes, the progressives who give liberals a bad name. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">White men, indeed. Indians, Arabs etc. - math, philosophy, etc.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Outrage is certainly among our most popular fads. "Have a Happy Xmas" would get you metaphorically strangled. It has to be 'Merry' and so on. And some would say "X stands for the unknown" Doesn't this sort of thing just make you want to tear your hair out?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Isn't it outrageously ironic that the people at the tops of our best universities, are exhibiting such illogic, stereotyping, throwing the baby out with the bath water, sucking up to their constituency with obvious examples? Now they have me questioning whether my dislike of scifi written by black people is racism or just an objective judgment. bah bah bah</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Logic as a detriment does make sense if you assume that the questioner is IQ-deprived. Sorry I can't say that on Quora.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"> bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 1:22 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 10:51 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Adrian, are you sort of including selfishness here? That is, if we could empathize fully we would understand people better and do more sharing with them? </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>One could phrase it that way. That would not include every definition of "selfishness" - I can easily imagine someone who telepathically understands ("empathizes with", for some definitions thereof) everyone else and yet still deliberately chooses to serve their own interests exclusively.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The question, if taken as Adrian suggests, makes no sense, since logic is clearly an asset.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, no, it makes sense. The answer is clearly "no", but the question makes sense: there exist people who go around criticizing things that, to the rest of us, are clearly assets. They perceive some flaw that, to them, makes these things undesirable. Usually these "flaws" are stylistic or aesthetic only, or confuse the origin of a thing for its present morality - such as those who claim that everything and anything that white men came up with, is poison because white men came up with it.</div><div><br></div><div>In the case of logic, said people utterly ignore that people other than white men also came up with it, completely independently. Their objective is to find things to be outraged at, not truly to improve the lives of those they claim to represent. If they were truly looking to improve lives, they would look to use the resources at hand regardless of origin - much like we can make use of the results of Nazi medical research, even if we would never permit their experiments to be done again today.</div></div></div>
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