<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Now what kind of purist uses 'sorta'? Maybe a confused one? I have been most of a purist. I remember fighting 'aggravate' as meaning angry or frustrated rather than its meaning of making something worse. That battle was lost long ago. I just say 'intensify'. Everybody caved on 'ain't. And most of everything else too. Dictionaries are books of usage, and that comes from the people, and they don't seem to be purists to me. But they swing the biggest weapons - popular usage. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Of course we don't have to go along with them, but increasingly we will be unable to communicate with the followers of the fads. I, for instance, say 'application' rather than 'app'. Do you? I say 'feel that' rather than 'feel like'. Do you? As for 'sorta', I'll bet you also use 'kinda'. Right? I also say 'ghost poo' rather than 'packing peanuts'. Do you? Oh sorry, irrelevant example.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Year ago Edwin Newman wrote several books on words which I enjoyed ('the ize have it'). I also communicated with James Kilpatrick over something - I forget what. Oh wait - it was over the use of words that are not amenable to qualification, like 'perfect' and 'unique'. Called absolute words. Fad usage has 'somewhat unique' or 'more unique' as acceptable. Not me. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:49 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 19, 2021 9:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] from quora - laugh of the day<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">Ah, another language purist</span>….<span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Billw, being a language purist is the easiest place of all to be a purist. In any other arena, to be a purist means one must be actually, literally, pure. Far easier it is to be an impurist. We even have a kind of socioreligious umbrella under which we shelter: Impuritanism.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">>…People will use language any way they want to - see the 400 additions to the Webster dictionary….<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Eh, Webstah schmebstah. What does he know? He was kinda mildly entertaining when he was still a cute little kid, but it didn’t work after season 2 and Alex Karras didn’t really break thru into show biz.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">>… You just can't stop it…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Ah, unnecessarily defeatist attitude Billw. Affix appropriation can be stopped! But we need more who believe it can be done. What this world needs is more featists. We can band together and even come up with a dismissive or derogatory term for those hopeless pessimists who whack off the adjective or verb from its modifier. We can call them the DEs. Then we make up corresponding missive or rogatory terms for ourselves.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">>…And don't forget infixes. bill w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Ja. Those are a whole nother story. Infixes are my friends. I can guaranfreakingtee you, I will never neglect them. However I might still argue that walnuts and sunflower seeds should have been unpolysaturated fats to start with. The nutrition people followed the science rather than the grammar.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">All of this reminds me of the reason I have hung out here for nearly three tragically-squandered decades: the delightfully chaotic way in which memes replicate and mutate to form new species of mutant memes. One can toss any notion, sensible or absurd, into the swirling maelstrom of ideas. It is impossible to predict where it will go, like when one presses the handle and drops in the TP after having one of those where it goes plup plup plup about 20 times, as happens sometimes, and around it goes, unpredictably. This particular comparison may need some work, for in the cited case, it is very predictable where it will eventually go. Furthermore, the analogy will likely never be used in Reader’s Digest section “Toward More Picturesque Speech.” But otherwise… it is like that sorta.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">w<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 10:40 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [ExI] from quora - laugh of the day<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] from quora - laugh of the day<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">>>…"dis" is short for "disrespect" or "insult", though in a lesser way (thus the shortening).<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…Ah. In that case, I shall un, for I am anti. We should all be more contra, for then we will not.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This brings back discussions from long ago about prefix appropriation. Well… for that matter, the term appropriation, which in our times has become a kind of shorthand for the cultural variety. I oppose prefix appropriation, even though we can see it is thriving, much to my dismay.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">For instance, what do you think of when someone says “they are all heteros.” I object to this. Those who prefer male-female sexual relations may not appropriate the term hetero. That is a prefix that we need to keep general. All prefixes and suffixes should be kept general and multi-purpose. We must start an affix rights movement, help reduce violence to grammar. Those who are unclear on the urgency should review the Newspeak section of Nineteen Eighty Four.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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