<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">How many ways are there to say something is innate in some fashion? A reflex, instinct, largely genetic behavior (including behavior of the brain), innate tendency,and so on.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Why use 'instinct'? You are using it in ways very different from what biologists use it for, which is complex, rigid external behaviors (geese following a person).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I can accept anything, whether I like it or not. I just want to know how you are using the term. You didn't get it from biology or psychology.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 10:25 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_2856214351423877252WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] ai doorbell<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">>>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"> if we can figure out a way to educate the superstition out of most of them.<u> </u></span><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">spike</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">I don't know if that is even possible. Obviously our brains accept false correlations as well as true ones, so we are fighting basic processes of our minds. All those cognitive errors we keep talking about are built in. I can't see our acquiring them as learning. Does anyone think they are learned? Our brains have worked well enough to get us here and thriving as a species and you can't blame Mother Nature for not making everything perfect. Evolution did its job, though much of the way our minds work is regrettable and could be designed much better. bill </span>w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">It is one step more subtle than that Billw. Our acceptance of superstition is built in, a phenomenon for which I use a term I already know you dislike: instinct. Our instinct steers us wrong (as it does with so many things) in this case. Accepting superstition is built in, but overcoming it is a learned behavior.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">One of our biggest challenges is that built in behaviors are low effort and replicate easier than learned behaviors. Soon the superstitious elements outnumber and outvote the learned behaviors.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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