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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/12/2021 13:48, Stathis wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 11:04,
Darin Sunley via extropy-chat <<a
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<div dir="ltr">To my mind, "uploading" implies a continuity of
identity. I don't just want to die while watching another
separate mind that has my memories and personality live
forever in a computer. /I/ want to live forever in a
computer.</div>
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<div>It's the difference between making a copy and destroying
the original, as per the Star Trek teleporter, or making a
copy and preserving the original, as per the Star Trek
teleporter when it malfunctions. In the former case, you will
have continuity of identity with the copy, while in the
latter, you have a 50% chance of having continuity with the
copy or the original.</div>
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<p>There is no difference, assuming the 'copy' is of high-enough
fidelity. There is continuity of identity in both cases, has to
be, or the process hasn't worked.</p>
<p>It's the old story of the dividing amoeba. Which of the two
daughter amoebas is the original, and which the copy? Does the
question even mean anything?</p>
<p>Uploading doesn't just imply a continuity of identity, it
necessarily involves it. Otherwise it isn't uploading. Whether
there are one or a million copies of the 'original mind' doesn't
matter (the whole terminology is confusing, in fact. Using the
word 'copy' causes a lot of misunderstanding, I feel*). There is
still continuity of identity. And if you just can't wrap your head
around the concept of branching identity, well, welcome to the
future.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
<p>* Tell you what, let's not 'copy' anything at all. Let's just
transfer the pattern of a mind to one or more other substrates.
Everybody happy now?<br>
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