<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 at 01:37, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-2010606548885770119WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave S via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] vaccine dark humor<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 7:49 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I will make a confident prediction: for years to come, we will be seeing people blaming the covid vaccine for any childhood maladies and the usual general weirdness of children born to mothers compelled to take this vaccine against their will.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Wow, who's doing forced vaccinations?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Many companies threatened to fire unvaccinated employees citing OSHA rules. The court stopped OSHA, but plenty of employees took the vaccine to save their jobs in the meantime. The military discharged some for refusing. There were plenty of people who felt pressured and wouldn’t have taken the vaccine without the pressure from employers and schools. That vaccine passport business is a huge error in judgement, considering that one isn’t required to present ID in order to get the vaccine, which creates a black market in the vaccine passport cards.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">For a large segment of the population, the vaccine will be blamed for everything that goes wrong medically, especially that goes wrong with children born after the mother was pressured to take these vaccines.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Of course. So what? It's natural to blame something new for issues that arise around the same time. Sometimes it's coincidence, sometimes there's a cause/effect relationship…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This can lead to a general distrust of vaccines, including the ones we have had for a long time, which we know are relatively safe and necessary. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…My wife got eye flashes in one eye last spring. Eye doctor said they'd probably go away in a couple of months, but they haven't. Recently she got them in the other eye. She realized that the first coincided with her second Moderna dose and the second with her booster. I googled and there is a possibility that the vaccine caused it:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8358769/" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8358769/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-Dave<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Owww dang sorry to hear it Dave. May she recover fully and quickly.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">If we pretend any new Rx is without risk we fool ourselves. We might find out that babies born to vaccinated mothers are four times as likely to develop auto-immune diseases for instance, but by then we have ten years of children who are developing rare but serious conditions. There really is more to it than risk of death. At some age, it is more risky to take it than not, guessing about 20 or so, and older than that for women, younger than that for diabetics.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Stand by however, for what happens in Florida in the next coupla weeks may cause all of this to go away. If it turns out that omicron is mild and confers natural immunity to the other variants, it might be our best bet to go ahead and catch the damn stuff, hang out with an omicron patient. Hell that could spawn a new micro-industry: hire a pleasant young omicroner to hang out with you for an hour. Nothing improper you understand, just visit and transmit, catch under controlled conditions, recover, go about your business. An ailing species heals.</p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Why do you think that the virus would be less likely to cause long term side-effects than the vaccine?</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-2010606548885770119WordSection1"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" dir="auto"></p></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Stathis Papaioannou</div>