<div dir="ltr">The prodigal father returns! <div><br></div><div>@Adrian: he didn't say it was easy, though. Eating less IS how to lose weight. It's pretty much the only way. Yeah, you get more hungry, but you have to deal with it. I understand addiction all too well as I was addicted to heroin 5 years ago. <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:17 PM Max More via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="auto">For me personally it's far far less than 1% (I'm 29 and healthy,) for young healthy people it's more likely they die of a car accident or drug overdose.
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<div dir="auto">Also, why does nobody in the mainstream ever talk about obesity with this? Pretty much every young person you see dying from this is obese. Yet of course we have this medically dubious "healthy at every size" movement that makes people feel
good mentally at the expense of their physical health. People have no issue criticizing drug addicts but criticizing food addition is a no-no, apparently. Losing weight probably increases chances of survival more than a vax does</div>
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<div dir="auto">Nah, if you really get deep into internet communities you'll see even the vaxlovers are getting tired of this shit.
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<div dir="auto">I'm unvaxed and I still haven't gotten it. I get enough sleep, don't stress much, and practice caloric restriction. Same for my partner </div>
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<div dir="auto">Most people haven’t had COVID and most people who have had COVID did not get sick enough to end up in hospital. No-one denies that. But people don’t like the idea that there is a 1% chance of dying from it, even though it means there is a 99%
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<p>I keep hearing that the omicron variant looks and acts like a common cold. If so, this is exactly what was predicted: eventually a killer-flu mutates into something more contagious and more benign. What we still don’t know is if one
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<div>### There is immunological cross-reactivity between various Covid variants, so an infection provides some protection against reinfection by multiple other variants. However, the tragic nightmare is a godsend to poseurs and power-grabbers, so I wouldn't
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