<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 12:34, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Is self-conscious, different than self-aware?  I would say not.</div><div>A tesla is already self aware or aware of itself (including it's color - though only abstractly) as it must know where itself is, and where it needs to go, while keeping itself from hitting other things....</div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I agree, I think that consciousness emerges from intelligent behaviour, but I’m surprised that you would say this. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:30 PM BillK via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Once Tesla issues the complete self-driving autopilot package the<br>
human in the car will no longer be driving. The car might not even<br>
have a steering wheel or any vehicle controls.<br>
So if two Tesla cars crash at a junction, will they argue about which<br>
car was at fault?<br>
This could be the start of AIs becoming self-conscious.<br>
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BillK<br>
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