<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">'It's just age old buddy' - didn't say old age. Physically we start down hill as soon as we mature - sad thought for the day, eh?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(32,33,36);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif">Your knees usually begin to deteriorate because of: Your age: The most common types of arthritis to cause knee deterioration and pain in aged knees include </span><b style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(32,33,36);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif">osteoarthritis</b><span style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(32,33,36);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif"> (worn out cartilage), rheumatoid arthritis (autoimmune disease), gout (acid buildup in joints) and septic arthritis (infected knee joint). </span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,36);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif"> So you probably have the beginnings of osteoarthritis In the 50s there was a TV show that played the pop hits of the week. The guy was Snooky Landsen. I saw him trying to sing an Elvis song, I think it was Heartbreak Hotel, and it was the strangest thing I have ever seen in music. Dorkishness, nerdism, does not begin to describe what he did to that song. The show went off the air shortly after that. bill w</span><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 2:27 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_-7575169994226592497WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] knees and math: was RE: How Infinite Series Reveal the Unity of Mathematics<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">The Xrays on my bad knee showed that it was bone on bone - no whatever kind of tissue was there is not there anymore. Maybe osteoarthritis kills it slowly. Overuse does too: consider football linemen: tremendous pressure every play on the knees and hips, and ergo many hip and knee replacements in that group. Spike - it's just age, old buddy. You can try glucosamine/chondroitin and it probably won't help. Avoid injections if at all possible: there is a very limited number of them you can have, and to boot, they damage tissue too, as does any steroid. You want to save the injection until the pain just begs you to do something. And when the injections have to stop it's time to consider replacement. Getting older is dealing with pain, no way around it. You could also try some anti-inflammatories, such as Naproxen, curcurmin, aspirin, and so on. bill </span>w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Ja, OK but what was wondering is what physiological changes occurred over time such that teenage knees come bounding down the stairs but mine don’t? I think you said it: arthritis somehow reduces its volume which somehow causes pain signals upon impact.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Regarding the comment: Spike-it’s just age, old buddy… I prefer to think of myself as middle-aged buddy, which assumes of course that I live past 120, or perhaps even late-youth buddy, but either way, a fun thought occurred to me today: you asked about modern pop music and I had one, but wasn’t sure if it qualifies. Read on please.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Back in the waaaay olden days, we had American Top 40 on the AM radio, and it was even better for those who could afford FM in their cars, and that station would have oldies day, where they specified the term referred to the music, not the audience. The songs were mostly from the 50s, a few from the early 60s which at that time was only 20 years old. Their definition of oldies in music was 20 years. Sheesh. Well OK then, plenty of us who were teens noticed the “oldies” were generally better music than the… newies. It was cool stuff, Elvis and Everlys and Roy Orbison and so forth.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">There was is a hip mod group but by now it would oldies: the Cranberries. They were mostly 1990s I think, great sound, female lead vocalist outstanding, but the lyrics, oh mercy. Sheesh try cheerfulness Delores, oy vey.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Billw there it is: Cranberries, so with that I can almost declare myself a mod hipster.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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