<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">from Wikipedia - Very few species have passed the MSR test. Species that have include the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape" class="gmail-mw-redirect" title="Great ape" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">great apes</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">, a single </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatic_elephant" class="gmail-mw-redirect" title="Asiatic elephant" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">Asiatic elephant</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_(fish)" class="gmail-mw-redirect" title="Ray (fish)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">Rays</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin" title="Dolphin" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">dolphins</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca" title="Orca" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">orcas</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">, the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_magpie" title="Eurasian magpie" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">Eurasian magpie</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">, and the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaner_wrasse" class="gmail-mw-redirect" title="Cleaner wrasse" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">cleaner wrasse</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">. A wide range of species has been reported to fail the test, including several species of </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey" title="Monkey" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">monkeys</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_panda" title="Giant panda" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">giant pandas</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">, and </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lion" title="Sea lion" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">sea lions</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:21px">.</span><sup id="gmail-cite_ref-3" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:nowrap;font-size:16.8px;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test#cite_note-3" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background:none">[3]</a></sup><sup id="gmail-cite_ref-4" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:no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> With animals, including the human kind, it depends on the IQ test... spike<br>
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My apologies in advance, but when the topic comes to dogs and intelligence,<br>
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