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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] gas prices<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:07 PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Well… Telsa owners can always rent a dinosaur burner for the occasional long trip I suppose. I am back to looking at a more modest rig like the Nissan leaf, an older kinda junky one that won’t cost much. Their resale price drops dramatically after they are 6 or 7 years old, because the range and performance start to degrade noticeably. But if one is hauling a generator, that wouldn’t matter as much.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ### One thing that I just don't understand is why the Chevy Volt was a failure. It is eminently more practical than a Tesla and cheaper and has the built in generator right there. I guess it's too immoral for those who buy Teslas for virtue signaling purposes and too expensive for regular schmucks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you are in the market for an electric car you can also use on long trips without wasting time on recharging, consider a used Volt.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rafal<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rafal I would go that route but not because it is a technologically superior solution. I read online reviews of the volt and found they were generally unpopular with owners, despised by some, loved by none. Most of the complaints as I recall were they are underpowered and overweight. Any series hybrid will have that problem. If one hauls a running generator, that temporarily converts an all-electric into a series hybrid.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The parallel hybrids are doing better in the market. Either way, in series or parallel hybrids, one is carrying the combustion engine always. What I was trying for was a way to haul the gas engine only when it is needed, which isn’t often, and even then it is under conditions which it doesn’t hurt to be overweight such as freeway cruising.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>