<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div class="gmail_quote"><table cellpadding="0" class="gmail-cf gmail-An" id="gmail-undefined" style="width:1113.77px;table-layout:fixed;border-spacing:0px"><tbody><tr><td class="gmail-Ap" style="vertical-align:top;width:1113.77px;height:100px"><div id="gmail-:189" class="gmail-Ar gmail-Au" style="border-radius:1px;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px 0px 16px;zoom:1;border:0px;margin:0px"><div class="gmail-aO7" style="position: relative;"><div id="gmail-:1oy" class="gmail-Am gmail-aO9 gmail-Al editable gmail-LW-avf gmail-tS-tW gmail-tS-tY" aria-label="Message Body" role="textbox" aria-multiline="true" tabindex="1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:0px;overflow:visible hidden;width:1113.77px;outline:none;direction:ltr;min-height:85px"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div>Mere pleasure can be had in far less self-destructive ways. Adrian</div><div><br></div><div>Adrian, I did not know that you were an ascetic. I would never pair the word 'mere' with 'pleasure' bill w</div></div></div><div class="gmail-yj6qo gmail-ajU" style="outline:none;padding:10px 0px;width:22px;margin:2px 0px 0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div id="gmail-:1jd" class="gmail-ajR" role="button" tabindex="0" aria-label="Show trimmed content" aria-expanded="false" style="background-color:rgb(232,234,237);border:none;clear:both;line-height:6px;outline:none;width:24px;border-radius:5.5px"><img class="gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif" style="background: url("https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/1x/more_horiz_black_20dp.png") 50% 50% / 20px no-repeat; height: 11px; opacity: 0.7; width: 24px;"></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 11:48 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 6:06 AM MB via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Back in the 60s when I was in school there were plenty of kids trying out<br>
various things. It was so bad to watch that even as a rather thoughtless<br>
20-something I decided that I did *not* want to go there, to be trying<br>
whatever it was they were taking. My college experience led me to become<br>
the designated driver, as the other guys scared me stiff.<br>
<br>
Alcohol was tricky enough, thanks very much. At present I know people of<br>
retirement age trying to wean themselves from that - and having terrible<br>
trouble. So glad I made the choices I did.<br>
<br>
If I missed something wonderful, at least I didn't fall into that pit.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Same, if more recent. I know that it can be pleasurable in the moment. It's what comes after that moment that's the problem. Mere pleasure can be had in far less self-destructive ways.</div></div></div>
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