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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I was tested by an allergist as I originally suspected that my digestion issues were due to allergies. As far as I know I am not allergic to any foods, but I have many severe intolerances. My body cannot tolerate FODMAPs. This is a common issue for people with IBS and IBS is becoming more and more common in Western countries.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I would definitely recommend high FODMAP foods for those who can handle it as those foods tend to be very nutritious. Unfortunately a growing percentage of the population cannot handle these kinds of foods. Many people are unaware that high FODMAP foods may be the root of their digestion, energy, and mood problems. I experienced severe chronic fatigue and depression for the majority of my life before I realized my food sensitivities. I am fine now, but it goes to show how devastating a seemingly harmless diet can be.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, April 22, 2022 11:48 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">ExI chat list</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com">William Flynn Wallace</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [ExI] carbs</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Carbs are quick hits. Proteins last you for many hours. Sugary cereals don't last - oatmeal does. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Yes, you can be allergic to anything. If something makes you very sick, like gluten. I'd call that an allergy. How are you making the distinction, Hermes? bill w<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 5:06 PM Hermes Trismegistus via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There are several issues with this.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><ol start=1 type=1><li class=gmail-m8569207112308869437msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Carbs are not as satiating as protein. This can lead to greater and more frequent food consumption which in the end results in more calorie intake.</li><li class=gmail-m8569207112308869437msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>I agree with this point. Fruit has fiber which slows the digestion of the sugar and helps prevent blood sugar spikes.</li><li class=gmail-m8569207112308869437msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Onions, apples, milk, yogurt, bananas, and cauliflower are fine for most people. However, onions, apples, and cauliflower are especially high in FODMAPS, poorly digested carbs which can cause gas and bloating and even inflammation in some people.</li><li class=gmail-m8569207112308869437msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Gluten must be avoided by more than just those who are allergic to it. Many people are intolerant, though not allergic. I myself am not allergic to gluten but become very sick if I eat it.</li><li class=gmail-m8569207112308869437msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Pure white sugar does not contain fiber and is too quickly absorbed by the body. This can cause blood sugar spikes and lead to conditions such as diabetes.</li><li class=gmail-m8569207112308869437msolistparagraph style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>I don’t see anything wrong with this point.</li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, April 21, 2022 5:26 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">ExI chat list</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com">William Flynn Wallace</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[ExI] carbs</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>According to Susie Bonds, an apparently well-known nutritionist, the following are myths:</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>1 - carbs are fattening; same calorie count as proteins per weight</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>2 - avoid fruit because of the sugar; the sugars are different from table sugar and added sugars</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>3 - avoid anything white; mostly true, though for bread, pasta and rice but don't shun potatoes onions, apples, milk, yogurt, bananas, cauliflower</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>4 - avoid wheat because of the gluten; only those who are allergic will benefit from avoiding wheat</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>5 - avoid white sugar; all sugars convert to glucose in the body</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>6 - don't eat carbs late in the day; no studies support this</span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>I suspect that low carb diets work because people eat too many bad carbs; i.e. we will tend to overeat carbs where we wouldn't with proteins. Low fat diets went out of style because of studies. So - eat a balanced diet. How retro. bill w</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>