<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">On Mar 18, 2022, at 6:50 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Steinberg via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] 27 psychedelics??</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Why are you so against it? I don't really understand. Upbringing? It seems very anti-learning…<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Could be early perceptions are influencing my attitude. When I was a child, rock stars seemed to be dropping dead regularly. Judy Garland (ja I know she wasn’t a rock star, but liked her voice),</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Judy Garland died from a barbiturate overdose — not from using psychedelics. </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"> Alan Wilson, </p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wilson also died from a barbiturate overdose — not from using psychedelics. </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jimi Hendrix </p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>He died from asphyxiation after using barbiturates from choking on his own vomit. Again, not from psychedelics.<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal">and Janis Joplin </p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>She died from a heroin overdose. Again, not a narcotic.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal">were all in the same few weeks as I recall, Jim Morrison</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Seems to have died of a heroin overdose too, though no autopsy was performed.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"> was a little later, Mama Cass <span style="font-size: 11pt;">they half-ass tried to tell us she choked on a ham sandwich, but we suspect it was dope or perhaps heart failure. </span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Based on what? The coroner said she choked to death while eating a sandwich in bed. Why do you believe this to be in error? Anyhow, probably not psychedelics.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> It did seem like drugs were taking a lotta stars, </span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The drugs being barbiturates, heroin, and eating in bed — not psychedelics. (I’d hazard a guess alcohol and tobacco have probably done more stars in.)</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">and ja I realize acid ODs are not fatal usually but in any case, I do admire your openness and honesty about the risks, going crazy and vast nightmare realms. That last part has a poetic ring to it, but I would rather read about it in a poem than live it.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><br><style><!--
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--></style></div><div>The risks I’d be more worried about with psychedelics are a) not knowing what you’re getting — which could mean the dose level as well as impurities, both factors having to do with they’re mostly being illegal — and b) doing something dangerous while on them — such as deciding to walk into traffic. The second can be mitigated by having trusted people around to guide you.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Dan</div></body></html>