<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Ah, my mistake. Don’t know why I typed that. Sorry about that. And it was most barbiturates that killed the folks Spike listed — not heroin. ;)</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dan</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 26, 2022, at 2:19 PM, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Cmon that was pretty clearly a typo. There's plenty of actual content you could have responded to instead of cherry picking an error</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 5:13 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small">She died from a heroin overdose. Again, not a narcotic. </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Oh? Since when? bill w</font></span><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 3:22 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">On Mar 18, 2022, at 6:50 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Steinberg via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] 27 psychedelics??</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Why are you so against it? I don't really understand. Upbringing? It seems very anti-learning…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Could be early perceptions are influencing my attitude. When I was a child, rock stars seemed to be dropping dead regularly. Judy Garland (ja I know she wasn’t a rock star, but liked her voice),</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Judy Garland died from a barbiturate overdose — not from using psychedelics. </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> Alan Wilson, </p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wilson also died from a barbiturate overdose — not from using psychedelics. </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jimi Hendrix </p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>He died from asphyxiation after using barbiturates from choking on his own vomit. Again, not from psychedelics.<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">and Janis Joplin </p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>She died from a heroin overdose. Again, not a narcotic.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">were all in the same few weeks as I recall, Jim Morrison</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Seems to have died of a heroin overdose too, though no autopsy was performed.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> was a little later, Mama Cass <span style="font-size:11pt">they half-ass tried to tell us she choked on a ham sandwich, but we suspect it was dope or perhaps heart failure. </span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Based on what? The coroner said she choked to death while eating a sandwich in bed. Why do you believe this to be in error? Anyhow, probably not psychedelics.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> It did seem like drugs were taking a lotta stars, </span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The drugs being barbiturates, heroin, and eating in bed — not psychedelics. (I’d hazard a guess alcohol and tobacco have probably done more stars in.)</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">and ja I realize acid ODs are not fatal usually but in any case, I do admire your openness and honesty about the risks, going crazy and vast nightmare realms. That last part has a poetic ring to it, but I would rather read about it in a poem than live it.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>The risks I’d be more worried about with psychedelics are a) not knowing what you’re getting — which could mean the dose level as well as impurities, both factors having to do with they’re mostly being illegal — and b) doing something dangerous while on them — such as deciding to walk into traffic. The second can be mitigated by having trusted people around to guide you.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Dan</div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></body></html>