<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">There have to be content moderators. How else could they stop posts that the algorithms can't figure out? I can't see how they would lose their jobs. I use Facebook very occasionally and never see ads. I have wondered about that. bill w</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">There is 'apparently' no downside to Musk. I think we will find out. Maybe it will shake the foundations of other media companies - a great and good thing, I say. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 3:39 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_-8421720196009115849WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 30 April, 2022 1:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'ExI chat list' <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [ExI] ok this explains it<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] ok this explains it<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">>>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">But Ari makes it sound like exposing that and stopping that is a bad thing. I don’t understand. Can anyone explain please?</span> <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">spike </span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">What if a media company wanted to discriminate against some political party? It's a private company, so it's not illegal - true?</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">True!<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>>…<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:rgb(34,34,34)">Making this transparent would be a terrible idea</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">… billw<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…So… this “news” guy appears to be arguing that NOT discriminating against a particular party is a bad thing, but discriminating against a political party is a good thing. Well, is it? MSNBC, is that it? Was this the most epic self-own ever? Was it done for humor? spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Billw, an idea just occurred to me.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Reliable sources say Twitter employees are having a collective meltdown over the Musk purchase and of course that opens them to ridicule. But… if true, why is it a crisis for Twitter employees? <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><img width="378" height="214" style="width: 3.9375in; height: 2.2291in;" id="gmail-m_-8421720196009115849gmail-m_-698609545199830052Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:1807c354b0f5b006a2"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">The reason I missed this before is that I wasn’t asking the right question. The right question is this: <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">What do Twitter employees do?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">If I owned a social medium, my primary interest would be figuring out how to make it earn enough cash to pay all those employees. To do that requires that most of your employees are selling ad space. Ja? A few managers, a few accountants, a few trainers, the rest: selling ad space. So… their job doesn’t really change at all under new ownership. I don’t see why it would. Do you?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">But what if… your social medium was employing people to override or enhance the filtering algorithm? It is pretty easy to see that Musk (being a businessman who has indicated he has no interest in discriminating against some political party) would lay off all the human content moderators, or reassign them to something that makes actual money, such as selling ad space. That’s what I would do.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">So, I could see where that would be a huge blow to those whose current job is to moderate content. They don’t want to sell ad space. They want to moderate content.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">OK so… what if… Twitter human content moderators exist. What do they do, and how do they do it? What criteria do they use to determine if they will override the moderation software? If Musk makes his filtering algorithm public, then he wouldn’t need humans in the loop overriding the software, ja? So… out they go adios amigo.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Assuming one is a Twitter employee but not a Twitter human moderator, is there a downside to the Musk purchase? What is it please?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-right:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://twitter.com/i/status/1518787650815201281" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/i/status/1518787650815201281</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="266" height="211" style="width: 2.7708in; height: 2.1979in;" id="gmail-m_-8421720196009115849gmail-m_2390065818461571049Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:1807c354b0f6917eb1"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> …<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The mind boggles.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">_______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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