<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">My legal team has disputed the use of 'right' to refer to using the internet, or for that matter, highways.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Oh I wanted to fly a plane so badly. Two problems: deaf in one ear and too tall (though not too tall now I think).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Yes, I know about DARPA. Even me. I recently read that many countries are trying to imitate it.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">And Good Morning to you! We are having beautiful days here - a dry spell after much rain. How are you on gardening? Flowers and such? love from roz and bill</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 7:31 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_-7199367627557171440WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] bee having fun<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">There is an interesting extension being made that speech in our world today isn’t done primarily by the voice but the words we post on the internet. We paid for that, so we have a right to it. spike</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">I don't get this. Whadda mean, we paid for it? The internet</span>?<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Ja. The internet grew out of the US Department of Defense as a project to facilitate electronic communications should the commies nuke the place. The ARPANET, Advanced Research Projects Agency NETwork it was.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">From what I can tell, the federal government does not have the authority to keep any particular individual from using that system. Modern speech requires use of the internet. So… using the internet is modern right to free speech. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">We paid for fighter jets too, but don't have the right to fly them</span>.<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"> bill </span>w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Billw, you paid for the jets, you have the right to be protected by them. You also had the right to join the service and compete with skerjillions of others for the assignment to fly those planes. Did you try for that duty? Neither did I. They still cover our asses. Life is good.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:rgb(34,34,34)"> </span><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:rgb(34,34,34)">w</span><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 4:42 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] bee having fun<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><br></span><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Billw, we have a constitutional right to free speech. So we don’t need to move. They do. spike</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">AGreed, - do you or anyone think that an abridgement of free speech will happen here</span>?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Depends on how you look at it. The right to free speech means the federal government cannot prosecute citizens for their speech. There is an interesting extension being made that speech in our world today isn’t done primarily by the voice but the words we post on the internet. We paid for that, so we have a right to it.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"> Does the government have a right to examine the algorithms? Should they? bill </span>w</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">If it doesn’t say so in the constitution, the government does not have the right. So no to both questions.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">The more interesting part to me is that Musk is buying Twitter at enormous cost saying nothing about modifying or changing the filtering algorithms. He is only saying he will make them public domain. It has become the biggest debate topic in some time, which is remarkable in itself.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Is there a legitimate reason, or even a logical illegitimate reason for stopping a guy from buying social media in order to make its filtering algorithm public? </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Plenty of the public seem to think it is a bad thing. Is it a bad thing for a social medium to tell them something? How can it be argued that it is a bad thing for a company deciding to now offer you something which it didn’t give you before? The company is not forcing you to look at the filtering algorithms, ja? So… making those algorithms public cannot possibly harm anyone, ja? But it can certainly satisfy some long-standing curiosity so some can benefit. 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