<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I found it mildly interesting that no girl ever raised her hand in my class when I asked who was a feminist (I told them I was one). They clearly rejected the masculine type you,Spike, are complaining about. We discussed how to be assertive rather than aggressive. Women managers are hated even more than men, and I suspect that being coarse and aggressive is what got those women managers in trouble with their staffs. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">And -are you or we overgeneralizing? Taking a few samples and making conclusions about modern women? San Francisco and Jackson MS are culturally very far apart. Also , we are far too old to be able to observe much of the behavior of young people. We jump to conclusions on the basis of what we see in the grocery stores, perhaps. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 12:41 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_-4730356441262095653WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Steinberg via extropy-chat<br><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] porn is for women<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Lol, a very Spike view...<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hey, expressing that view is what I do best. Thx Will.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…I think what you mentioned is a very small portion of the toxic male roles that pornography teaches<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Ja, to emphasize what I posted (and understated) before, I am no expert on these matters. I still get my porno thrills by viewing Jill Stein speeches (with the sound off (Jill is a really cute little number, ja?))<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>… I would be more concerned about the objectification of and violence towards women that it teaches, especially in contemporary porn. It has become extremely violent and degenerate.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Will it isn’t even that really because if one goes to those videos (the real porno I mean, not Jill) one knows what one is getting. But consider the more pervasive messages in society generally today. It is almost like women (don’t know the current term for that concept) are being actively discouraged from taking on just good old traditional marriage and family, marry a man (don’t know the current term for that) and raise two or three children in a home with both biological parents (don’t know the current term.)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">For some reason, it sometimes feels like that whole lifestyle is being actively discouraged. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">But I will leave this on an upbeat note. I personally know a young lady up the street and a group of her friends, who actively rebel against modern society. They have no tattoos, they punch no holes in themselves, they don’t listen to the harsh angry radio music that seems so popular today, they dress in a way that is best described as traditional modest, and ooooh do they have their own dedicated following. Were I young and single, that would definitely be my crowd. It still exists.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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