<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I am just finishing Pinker's book Rationality, in which he deals with every boner of thinking that man can make - over 200 types of cognitive errors, for instance. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">It is true that raw intelligence is highly helpful in mitigating the effects of biases and beliefs in witches and so on, but decision-making style shows up on regression charts too.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Teaching basic skepticism is great. It should start in kindergarten! They can think - teach them to think better. I wish I could get out there, somewhere, and do it. No use in preaching it to our chat group choir. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">But the world is slowly getting better. Think of how these things have diminished:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">slavery, human sacrifice, harems, foot-binding, sadistic corporal capital punishments (public disembowelments), persecution of heretics and dissidents, oppression of women and of religious, racial, ethnic and sexual minorities. In every case plotted, all are fading out.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">My question for Pinker: where do these biases come from? Are they really all learned? I have my doubts. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 1:27 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg491598005908859106"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_491598005908859106WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] fake news again was: ian came home<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">Barring the man on the street, everyone you see on TV is an actor with a script. Esp. 'reality shows' - bill </span>w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Billw, this gets where I was going originally with the offshoot thread: the internet has collectively educated us.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Consider the famous misunderstood line by PT Barnum: A sucker is born every minute.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">That comment was made in a boardroom meeting where there was concern that people were growing too sophisticated in 1900 to fall for a lot of the acts they were accustomed to selling to local rubes. Barnum assured the board that the target audience was the young people who hadn’t actually seen it. He cynically referred to the young as suckers. The way we use the term today is gullible people. He meant it more literally, which also explains the “…born every minute…” comment.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">OK well then, consider young people today. I did community volunteer service this week assembling charge carts for a kinder thru grade 2 school, so the kids could all have computers on which they do their studies. They have restricted internet in all these public schools. Result: these suckers grow up fast. They know a lot about skepticism, which is the result of internet use, at an early age.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">When I was their age, we were urged to trust, to step out on faith. Now the opposite is the norm, so I suppose we could even kinda make a rhyme: at an early age, we take the step of skep. We learn to cross check, being as it is suddenly very easy to do.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">This alone has an enormous impact on society. We catch the phony nonsense offered to us as news.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 12:29 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">…leaning into it, the way even a cow (a stupid COW fer cryin out loud) understands:<br><br><a href="https://youtu.be/tocuyJ1Fu7U" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/tocuyJ1Fu7U</a><br><br>spike<br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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