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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>>…</b> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Cruise robot taxis in San Francisco<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 1:42 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>So... what happens when most of the traffic is self-driving?... It will get worse,<br>until... they will realize this isn't going to work.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…The volume of pedestrian traffic is not nearly high enough to bring car traffic to a standstill by itself. Also, jaywalking is still illegal; if pedestrians get abusive about this, severely inconveniencing people who have the police chief's ear, expect arrests until the problem goes back down…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Adrian you have far more faith than I do in the legal system. In a time when San Francisco is still trying to decide if shoplifting is still illegal, it isn’t clear to me they will care about jaywalking.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>That being said… After posting the previous, I realized having omitted two plausible outcomes of intentionally walking out assuming the self-driver will politely stop. The chariot is operated by a human who can fail to detect the wayward pedestrian, striking same, or the human driver has a dash cam and maliciously pretends to fail to detect the hapless victim, again striking the silly presumptuous twit. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I would estimate about a 2% chance of injury or serious fatality with each against-the-light crossing now. Do you feel lucky? Neither do I. Nor do I expect the number of arrests to go up in San Francisco until sheer frustration ignites a proletariat revolt there which results in a neo-Nazi dictator being elected mayor.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>