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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Max More via extropy-chat<br><br><b><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>>…</b><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> today’s LA Times op-Ed piece referencing Extropianism. There’s a lot wrong with it. Below are some brief comments I sent in reply: <span class=contentpasted0> </span> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-10-10/longtermism-climate-change-elon-musk">Guerrero: I once fell for the fantasy of uploading ourselves. It's a dangerous myth - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>It's about what I'd expect from the L.A. Times!</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> --Max<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks Max. As soon as she started talking about swallowing pills and relationships with violent men, her credibility with me dropped by two orders of magnitude. I don’t understand the reasoning of one who claims that the notion of uploading leads to those things. Uploading appeals to me. That other stuff, even if I substitute my favorite gender, not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>My reasoning goes thus: if uploading is ever a possibility, it will be after the singularity which hasn’t happened (as far as we know) but is in the future. It follows that if we pay very close attention to basic and well-known health principles, eat light, exercise, live right, sleep in your own bed every night, the fundamental stuff, then we are likely to live longer, and if so, more likely to live to see the singularity and upload.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Strategy: put away the damn pills, and that violent men business, oy, do part company with violent anyone of any gender forth-freaking-with (ja I have long since lost track of how many genders there are now (but no matter (for we are not here to convert me to being a mod hipster.)))<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>If we don’t live long enough, well, you still get better health out of the deal anyway, a longer life. At no real cost!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sheesh this is simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>