<div dir="ltr">I'm not sure that a human trained to work with an AI to improve its performance would do worse than AI alone. The existing competitions in both fields do not allow for such a combination if I understand correctly. <br>Also if that is the case then let's invent a better game where humans and AI can work together and enhance each other capabilities. Some things just become obsolete and while I love chess if it is time to make it something that it can be enjoyed at the hobby level without making it a profession then let it be. I don't see all this fuss about making sure nobody cheats. I think it is pretty ridiculous. <br>Giovanni <br><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 6:43 PM BillK via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 02:17, spike jones via extropy-chat<br>
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> That's right BillK. We have computer chess tournaments going on constantly,<br>
> where the best software plays the best software. I will freely admit they<br>
> play some astonishing games, but I don't follow it much. I do follow the<br>
> top humans however.<br>
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> Note that sports betting is becoming more accepted over time. The betting<br>
> on the human chess is way higher on all axes: volume of shares traded,<br>
> number of people betting, and amounts bet. The top software not so much.<br>
> This tournament where Niemann apparently somehow hid a computing device up<br>
> his ass was a big money tournament. So it does matter, and it also is<br>
> likely the end for money human vs human tournaments. Sigh.<br>
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> spike<br>
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Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann sues champion Magnus Carlsen, others<br>
for $100 million over cheating claim<br>
Published Thu, Oct 20 2022<br>
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<<a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/20/chess-grandmaster-hans-niemann-files-100-million-defamation-suit-over-cheating-accusation.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/20/chess-grandmaster-hans-niemann-files-100-million-defamation-suit-over-cheating-accusation.html</a>><br>
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Now it looks as though they have to prove how the cheating was done.<br>
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BillK<br>
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