<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave S via extropy-chat<br><b>..</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> >…Dave you and I are in rare full agreement on that comment.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…Cool. :-) This covid/bleach thing is a good example of the failure of both men to exhibit leadership. -Dave<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Minor historic note: the term “both men” is probably not applicable, since that substitution of terms (for a more specific term) was done by others rather than the guy who was running for nomination at the time (whose name I do not recall.) I didn’t see the current POTUS (whose name I cannot recall) say anything about bleach at the time, but of course I might have missed it. The press really ran with that ball. None of them produced a video or recording with the term “bleach.” It was one of those where the evidence is fake but the story is real.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Side note on this last part, since the entire thread is all about how exaggeration destroys trust: recall the birth of the whole “fake news” notion started in 2004 when CBS was caught counterfeiting documents. Not knowing quite what to do, and lacking the intestinal fortitude to just own up to having been duped, CBS went with the notion that “…the evidence is fake but the story is real…”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Heh. That was quite entertaining to say the least, for we had previously just taken the word of the news people as the truth as a default assumption. But after that, we carefully noted the wording: the press was only saying the story is real. They were no longer claiming the story is true, only that it is real. To claim the story is true requires actual evidence. Well OK, I agree that this is a real story. What we want to know is if it is a true story. Margaret Mitchell’s Gone With the Wind is a real story. When we watch the news, we don’t want real stories, we want only true stories.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Second side note: we have caught the news people faking other evidence since then to produce dramatic real stories, specifically in the area of sending reporters out in a storm and having them go thru silly theatrics to show how brave they are. They wear big loose windbreaker raincoats, all the better to flap in the breeze, shouting into a microphone while pretending to be leaning (in the wrong direction) from the wind. They could just get a Kevlar motorcycle suit with a full-face helmet with telephone speakers and microphone already installed. Then they could report during actual hurricane-force winds, in a normal voice and get protection from flying debris. But… that doesn’t sell. The proletariat apparently want real stories rather than true stories.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Oh I love the internet. Freeeeee, open, uncensored communications, what a blessing!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>