<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 08:55, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)" dir="auto"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-2895895942178111268WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] bitcoin again<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 02:18, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-style:none solid none none;border-right-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;border-right-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> …<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…I am a total cryptocurrency exchange virgin… do feel free to offer your take on this article, which (guessing by their choice of advertising) might be a parody:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/there-will-be-pain-binances-cz-floats-billion-dollar-bailout-distressed-crypto" target="_blank">"There Will Be Pain" - Binance's 'CZ' Floats Billion Dollar Bailout For Distressed Crypto | ZeroHedge</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…A few months ago SBF was saying much the same things: crypto lending services were in trouble, but FTX was solid, overflowing with money, and would save the crypto world. It turns out that the reason he was saying these things was that he knew FTX was in trouble and wanted to boost confidence so that the value of the FTT token securing loans would be maintained, customers would not withdraw their funds and maybe more VC investors would invest in the company. It was working until CZ decided to publicly declare that he would crash the price of FTT he held (which was a lot, from a previous deal with FTX) by dumping it all.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Stathis Papaioannou<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Stathis, do forgive my tyro queries. Did you mean that CZ intentionally crashed the FTX token even though he held a lot of them, reducing his own net worth, in an effort to intentionally wreck a competitor? Perhaps this was an attempt to buy the tattered remains of FTX for a song?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Seems self-defeating, but perhaps effective.</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">CZ had over $500 million worth of FTT tokens, and he announced on Twitter that he would sell them. The CEO of Alameda Research offered to buy all these tokens at a fixed price (around the market price prior to the tweet), but CZ said no: he was going to sell them on-market. At the same time, it came to light that these tokens were being used by FTX as collateral for loans. Normal practice in the crypto world is to use coins such as BTC or ETH as collateral for fiat loans, which are liquidated if the borrower defaults or if the value of the collateral drops below an agreed amount. But using a coin that you created, the value of which depends on the financial health of your company, to secure loans to yourself, can obviously lead to trouble. CZ saw an opportunity to give the toppling edifice a push, bringing it all down.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)" dir="auto"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-2895895942178111268WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal" dir="auto"></p></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Stathis Papaioannou</div>