<div dir="auto">Spike I think something you might need to hear is that listening to you is basically identical, for me, to listening to some normie who watches CNN and follows all the trends from *that* mainstream. Yeah you make some good points, albeit often covered in a lotta bs, but so do they. And both of yalls for the most part don't really make nuanced arguments at all, just teleological ones based on dislike of the other side. There's something true deep down in there but it is obfuscated by hypocritical nonarguments, just like the side you don't like. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Turn off the Fox news, man. It's just as bad as CNN.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sorry to be harsh, I don't like to be but honestly it does annoy me and as someone who understands the benefit of both conservative/traditionalist as well as liberal/progressive ideas (I lean libertarian, as I think most of us here do,) I think the way you speak does a disservice to the greater understanding of the positive aspects of rightism, just like the acab neopronoun twitterites do a disservice to the analogous aspects of leftism. And for what it's worth neither side seems to really be much of what they say. The lefties are talking about the importance of autonomy and individual choice while the righties are banning books and licking the boots of armed government thugs (saw a house the other day with a blue lives flag AND a gadsden flag, howboutdat?). Truly a topsy-turvy, clownian world we live in.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">☆☆☆☆☆🤡 🌎 ☆☆☆☆☆</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:50 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-968056385163556210WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Steinberg via extropy-chat<br><br><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Spike my man the way you talk about society and politics is what I imagine it would feel like if some philosopher came up to you and said that pi is exactly 3<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Ja perhaps so Will. If she did, I would say she is exactly wrong. Falsifying evidence is exactly wrong too. Always. Not approximately wrong. Exactly wrong.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In that particular case, it might have gotten a number of valuable US-sympathetic Russian CIA assets killed. That too is exactly wrong.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">… for the FBI falsifies evidence.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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