<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Jeez, Will, I didn't know you made the rules for what Negroes are called. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 4:36 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Jeez Mr. Crow, you'd think someone on a science list would know what omitted variable bias is...<br><br>Also look I know you're like 80 or something but I don't think it is hard to understand what I said. Black as an adjective is fine, black as a noun is not. Should I say it a third time or do you get it now<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 4:52 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 3:30 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Also whose morals are you referring to? I think you are talking about poor people in general. The color of your skin doesn't change your morals or behavior. Your economic and living situation does. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Will, would you like to take a look at the statistics on unwed mothers, often very young, abortions? Then tell me race does not matter.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Prostitution beginning at age nine or so is rampant. Look at the statistics. I have known about black prostitution since the 50s, working with black men. "Oh yeah, I am going to buy me something from her this weekend They'll all do it, even the married ones."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Children tell. Children tell parents about what other children brag about on the playground, or even see. It was a significantpart of white flight to suburbs and creating all white schools.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I wish you were right, Will, and that skin color doesn't matter. But we are talking about different cultures here, and sexual mores are different and have been for a long time. Ask a sociologist. These things don't make the news for obvious reasons. bill w</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Blacks - that is what I read they wanted - capitalization. Now it's back to blacks? Will someone please take charge and tell me what's PC? bill w</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 4:22 PM Will Steinberg <<a href="mailto:steinberg.will@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">steinberg.will@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Lol dude 'black' as an adjective is ok. 'Blacks' is not considered ok. You should say 'black people'. Just letting you know</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 2:10 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I will admit to forgetting to use 'Blacks'. But you did it yourself Will. I do admit to some bias (NOT prejudice) against Blacks: I strongly condemn their morals, and I don't want to get any flak about welfare causing men to abandon their lovers and children. So if that makes me racist, to that extent I am racist</div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I deal with a lot of Blacks, mostly working for me. I treat them like friends. I feed them, I let them in the house to use the bathroom, and so on - I'll bet not a lot of white people in the South go that far. bill w </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 12:59 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>From what I have gathered, WFW William is one of those 'southern boomer' liberals whose heart seeks mostly in the right place but also says things like 'blacks' and generally doesn't know he is being implicitly or explicitly racist or racist-adjacent some of the time.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I try to remind myself that much of this list is in the 60-80 age bracket. It comes with the territory I guess. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think he means to just point to the fact that intra-group murder rates are super high for poor black ghettoized city dwellers and that nobody seems to care, and that that is sad and fucked up, but the language is all bungled. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">WFW, correct me if I'm wrong.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 1:33 PM Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 10:08 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Four young people slain with a gun on the south side of Chicago, doesn't even make the news ever. spike</span><br></div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">And why not? No story there - just black gang members, in or out of prison, killing one another. I suspect that data will show that killings other than domestic ones are overwhelmingly black and have no ideological agenda at all. No news is not good news. bill w</font></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You give spike for being a goofy kind of narrow-view that irritates you... then you make this commentary that has no other quality than to value signal your racism?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Next time you think to post such, don't. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There, one of us said it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If nobody else corrects me for overstepping the bounds of etiquette, you may assume we're all in agreement. </div><div dir="auto"></div></div>
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