<div dir="auto">Elon is an idiot for getting himself into this mess buying it. It is VASTLY overvalued. Its inflated value is in the ability to steer cultural trends (i.e. as a propaganda tool by governments and large corporations etc.) but the users don't see any of that value themselves. Nobody actually likes Twitter. Its most diehard users often talk about how much they hate it and call it "the hell site". People just go there to argue and be stupid for the most part. Clear to anyone smart that it is a BAD purchase.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Elon just bought it because he is addicted to Twitter himself and because his big mouth got him to make a financial promise he couldn't break. The whole saga exemplified a lot of foolishness on his part. Perhaps he can monetize it but it's not going to be from a subscription model because people don't like the site. He will have to change it entirely. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">On the other hand, people who think he is destroying Twitter are not smart either, as they shout that kinda stuff ON TWITTER. The site looks like it will continue on the same path, losing money until it is overtaken by something better, unless there are major innovations. I think Elon is capable of that stuff sometimes but he also huffs his own shit fumes too hard and lacks commitment to his side projects. I do like Tesla and SpaceX, but that guy does need a slap in the face and to get told to shut up sometimes. It's not surprising he got dumped by his wives and girlfriends so many times. He truly is a manchild and his Twitter posts are very cringe </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, 4:48 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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From: John Klos <<a href="mailto:john@ziaspace.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">john@ziaspace.com</a>> <br>
...<br>
<br>
>...The evidence that was shared with IT experts was unquestionably accessed<br>
after it was collected. What actually was changed and by whom can't be known<br>
precisely...<br>
<br>
Good then we need to call everyone to the witness stand to testify under<br>
oath. We need the guy who wrote it, the guy who received it, and the<br>
computer guy.<br>
<br>
...<br>
<br>
>...You trust Elon to what? <br>
<br>
To shine a light where currently there is darkness and decay.<br>
<br>
>...He's a manchild with problems who doesn't understand regular people. He<br>
shows a lack of capacity for empathy...<br>
<br>
Empathy is not necessary to shine a bright light of day on what I fear is a<br>
secret effort to suppress other people's ideas. <br>
<br>
>...If you say "free speech", then do you really think that platforming<br>
Nazis and white supremists is the price we have to pay to not overstep?<br>
John<br>
<br>
John they can take that kind of stuff down, and Elon is doing it, starting<br>
with that rap star guy whose name I forget, who is a Nazi. What Elon brings<br>
is openness: if something is taken down it should be labeled, archived and a<br>
reason given. There have been credible accusations of shadow banning at<br>
Twitter, which can under some circumstances continue, but the person being<br>
shadow banned gets to know it is happening. Ja I understand that is a<br>
contradiction in terms and that true shadow banning requires stealth, to<br>
intentionally decrease the reach of memes Twitter doesn't like, but I would<br>
note that one sitting in the shade of a beautiful Oaktree is in its shadow,<br>
yet can still see and be seen. I will settle for pseudo-shadow banning.<br>
<br>
I say define the rules, code them, let software do what software does so<br>
well, get Twitter breaking even as soon as possible because otherwise there<br>
is no Twitter at all, and I think it has enormous value to the world. That<br>
company cannot keep operating at a loss. They were hemorrhaging so fast,<br>
they had little time left. I don't know where those 4 million bucks a day<br>
were coming from before, but that is some serious red ink there.<br>
<br>
spike<br>
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