<div dir="ltr">Not that anyone asked, but I'd also recommend against paxlovid as a Covid treatment. Beyond the fact it has some serious (as in potentially fatal) drug interactions due to the metabolic pathway it hits, I believe the Covid rebound rate is much much higher than the 5% official figure touted. Anecdotally, anyone I know who took it got rebound, as did pretty much any public figure touting taking it. I can't prove the rebound rate is higher than 5% but as a gambling man, I would not bet on the side of paxlovid.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:32 PM Dylan Distasio <<a href="mailto:interzone@gmail.com">interzone@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">A) I eventually begrudgingly took 1 JNJ to avoid vaccine related restrictions and because I was concerned about potentially being on the bubble due to my weight/age. <div><br></div><div>I raised concerns amongst the list I run online early on regarding nanoparticle tissue distribution, and did not believe the risk/reward made sense for anyone who is young and healthy. I stuck to my guns in terms of my teenage daughter and have not vaccinated her (and won't under any circumstances). I was not willing to take a mRNA based vaccine, but rolled the dice with the JNJ due to it being 1 shot, and hoping that the tissue distribution would not be as bad with a viral based vector (this was a shot in the dark though) compared to the nanoparticles. I also have major concerns over the purposeful modification they have made to the mRNA to make it persist long term. I am more convinced than ever that the mRNA vaccines are unsafe and should be pulled from the market (based on risk/reward versus natural infection) or at the very least only offered to seniors/high risk groups.</div><div><br></div><div>I was trying to hold out for Novavax which is a traditional vaccine (although post-launch, I've got lesser concerns with that one as well) but due to FDA political games and some manufacturing issues, they weren't approved until much, much later.<br><div><br></div><div>B) My wife got the original mRNA series from Pfizer over my objections. The entire household later got Covid despite two of us vaccinated.</div><div><br></div><div>No one in the household will be getting any boosters.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:46 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Was curious about the folks here, so here is a short poll:<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A) Have you received any covid vaccines?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">B) Have you gotten ANY covid?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Personally I </div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>
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