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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Do offer any available insights por favor.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…You should abandon the idea that you need fool anyone. Grandma's bot will be the UI that generation understands. …<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…Sorry spike, i started with the idea that you aren't harming the elderly with your chatbot and I ended up in the dystopian near future (near enough as to be called present?)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Mike I read your post word for word twice but didn’t see a single thing in there I would consider the least bit dystopian. Do elaborate if you intended something of that sort, for I missed it twice. It is good stuff: helpful and optimistic. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I agree about the younger generation growing up with zero expectation of privacy, very unlike me: I am very concerned about ubiquitous surveillance. Considering I am both an openness advocate and a straight arrow in everything, this is an odd position perhaps, but I do feel we are all entitled to some degree of privacy. My son’s generation never really had that and do not demand it. Oy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regarding your comments on grandma not being too bothered by the “what am I talking to” question, your notion about using the bot as a stand-in for a phone is a marvelous idea. That has my wheels turning. There aughta be some way of making that happen.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In any case: OK, sure there will be some elderly not-all-theres who will be fooled but you are right: I might be overly obsessing on that. This is one of those things I have been thinking about since my teens, working in a facility for the… not just elderly but specifically senile. They were kept in a separate area from the other patients. I have thought for over 40 years there should be some way to interact with these patients and make their final years more comfortable.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>OpenAI is a great leap forward I perceive.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>