<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Learning should be inherently pleasant and self motivated, not stressful. Science should incite curiosity and wonder, not conjure tedium.</span><br></div></div><br><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Have you ever tried to teach anything to anyone?  If you think getting self-motivation etc. can be easily achieved, you are very wrong.  Very idealistic - not practical.  We do try, of course.  Math esp. is hard to make fun.  bill w</div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 4:05 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Our highly competitive formal education system leads children to associate learning with stress. The inflexible system for scientific research dissemination sucks the pleasure out of scientific writing and results in tedious papers that are painful to read.<div><br></div><div>Learning should be inherently pleasant and self motivated, not stressful. Science should incite curiosity and wonder, not conjure tedium.</div><div><br></div><div>Technology is bringing change. Instructors can no longer flay students with mind-numbing busywork assignments as solutions can often be found online and AI technology such as ChatGPT is now capable of solving most problems students are faced with. Large language models are becoming better and better and are now capable of intelligently assisting with all forms of writing, eliminating much of the tedium. The days of pain will no longer be plenty.<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 5, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="auto"><div style="display:block"><div style="display:inline-block" role="link"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;display:block;width:300px;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none" rel="nofollow" href="https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review" dir="ltr" role="button" width="300" target="_blank"><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:300px;background-color:rgb(233,233,235);font-family:-apple-system,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300"><tbody><tr><td align="center"><span id="m_3451020818199044042m_6022679401500226103cid:4CDE7093-998E-43BD-A2D2-922EA040505B"><24ab2184-c024-44c5-81cc-4bc14851b965_1762x1173.jpeg></span></td></tr><tr><td><table bgcolor="#E9E9EB" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="font-family:-apple-system,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;table-layout:fixed;background-color:rgb(233,233,235)"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:8px 0px"><div style="max-width:100%;margin:0px 16px;overflow:hidden"><div style="font-weight:500;font-size:12px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><font>The rise and fall of peer review</font></a></div><div style="font-weight:400;font-size:11px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><font color="#A2A2A9" style="color:rgba(60,60,67,0.6)">experimentalhistory.substack.com</font></a></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><div style="display:block"><br></div><div style="display:block">No problems that can’t be fixed?</div><div style="display:block"><br></div><div style="display:block">Regards,</div><div style="display:block"><br></div><div style="display:block">Dan</div></div>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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