<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Models derived from ChatGPT’s technology could be trained via reinforcement learning to be very good at converting people to a particular ideology or religion. Essentially, a model could be rewarded for each successful conversion or partial conversion. As the model acquires rewards it would learn more about human nature and the conversion process and become better and better. This applies to any kind of ideology, good and bad, as well as product marketing.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:09 PM, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="">Oh, interesting. That explains a lot.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Oh, and Spike made a great comment about AI church missionaries. So does that mean an AI will have desires to convert people to particular religions, or ways of thinking?</div><div class="">Man, It's going to be a very different world, very soon.</div><div class="">Will AI's try to get people with mistaken evil / destructive beliefs (and the associated actions) to change? Or is that all religion?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 3:32 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">That isn’t entirely fair to ChatGPT. The system reads in tokens rather than individual characters so ChatGPT doesn’t actually “see" individual characters. Tokens are sometimes whole words or parts of words, but are not usually single letters. Another issue is that ChatGPT is allowed only a finite time window to answer. It doesn’t get to ponder indefinitely as a human would before answering. It may perform better if you give it several iterations.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 8, 2023, at 4:05 PM, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="margin:0in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Yes, I’ve heard people warning us about when they start to try to sell us stuff.</div><div style="margin:0in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">And we aren’t there yet. My friend asked it to write a sentence without
the letter e. But it failed, and there
were e letters in the sentence. When
this was pointed out ChatGPT got more and more obviously mistaken (misspelling words and such) as it tried
to justify itself.</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 1:57 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br class="">
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>...If ChatGPT is working as the front-end to Bing, there should be fewer factual errors in the replies that it writes to questions.<br class="">
In practice, people will begin to treat it as an all-knowing Oracle.<br class="">
Will the new Bing become a poor man's AGI?<br class="">
Could politicians ask for economic or wartime advice?<br class="">
The replies from ChatGPT will always sound very reasonable, but.......... BillK<br class="">
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We must somehow figure out how to get ChatGPT to sell stuff for us. The sales potential of such a device is mind-numbing.<br class="">
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