<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">You know, infallibly, that redness in your left brain hemisphere is the same as redness in your right hemisphere.</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">That is not necessarily true.  We know that the corpus callosum can inhibit input to the right hemisphere when the input is language.  The CC is not just a carrier.   bill w</font></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 8:57 AM Brent Allsop <<a href="mailto:brent.allsop@gmail.com">brent.allsop@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi John,</div><div>We all know you never stop repeating this claim, that colorness is not approachable via objective science.  But this "there is no way" claim would be falsified If experimentalists demonstrated that computationally bound glutamate always produced the same redness experience, and that nobody could ever experience redness (i.e. no function could ever produce redness), without glutamate.  And nobody could ever demonstrate an exception to that.  That being the weakest form of <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JKwACeT3b1bta1M78wZ3H2vWkjGxwZ46OHSySYRWATs/edit" target="_blank">3 ways to falsify your "no way" claim</a>.  You know, infallibly, that redness in your left brain hemisphere is the same as redness in your right hemisphere.</div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 7:44 AM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 9:31 AM Brent Allsop <<a href="mailto:brent.allsop@gmail.com" target="_blank">brent.allsop@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>why is everyone talking about experimenting on everything but the qualia, or at best something completely separated from the qualia, itself????</i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4">Because there<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">'s</span> no way even in theory to employ the scientific method<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> in an investigation</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">of</span> the fundamental nature of<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>qualia itself<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">. So there's nothing to talk about. </span></font></div><div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">John K Clark</span></font></div><div> </div></div></div>

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