<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It is the system that encourages the parents. Many believe that their kids will be in the bottom rungs of society unless the kids get straight A’s. I not even saying that there is a good solution since society is a fight over limited resources, just that it is all a pity.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 17, 2023, at 12:40 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">Some children are driven mad by having their entire worth reduced to a single number. Some, such as you can handle it, others not so much.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;"> G</span></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;">I would blame such a thing on the parents and their expectations. Mama never made any comment whether I made As or Ds. I knew I was smart no matter how I did in the class. Very libertarian upbringing.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;">bill w</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;"></span><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 17, 2023, at 12:16 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;" class="">It wasn't school so much as knowledge. I am very introverted and always wanted to read a book rather than go play with the neighborhood kids. The idea of liking or not liking school never occurred to me. We all did it, except on those days when we faked being sick (Mama was understanding).</div><div style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;" class="">I have not changed a bit and still read scores of books a year. What will I do with the knowledge? Just enjoy it. bill w</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:08 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="">You loved school? That is honestly the first time I have ever heard someone say that.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 17, 2023, at 11:59 AM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family: "comic sans ms", sans-serif; font-size: large;" class="">Look, we can't blame it all on the schools. I loved school and where I went was the same as anywhere else. In fact, in college I took a dozen courses or more that were not required. If the teacher was bad I just sat in class and read forward in the text. You can't keep an interested man down. bill w </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 4:14 PM MB via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" class="">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br class=""><br class="">Gadersd via extropy-chat wrote:<br class="">> I would have loved that school as a child. It would have saved me from so much trauma and I was at the top of my class. Not everyone from the bottom of the class even survived.<br class=""><br class="">I hear you - and I wonder what *I* would have done with my life had I<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">been exposed to such a choice of interests. I was at the top of my<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">class until highschool, and then schooling killed any interest I had in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">learning anything for many many years. As my older brothers told me,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">"Don't worry, it gets better when you're out of school." 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