<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:35 PM Max More <<a href="mailto:max@maxmore.com" target="_blank">max@maxmore.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:12pt">If they are several seconds behind, it's wasting my time and may well
make the other person feel like they should hurry. I don't like it when that happens to me. </span><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### Yes, exactly! I also don't like it when others hold the door for me because either I have to slow down, or hurry up, or swerve around. Holding doors for others indiscriminately is just wasteful. </div><div><br></div><div>In contrast, I might hold the door for somebody whose arms are occupied with e.g. pizza boxes or, as Spike mentioned, long skirts, because that's actually socially efficient - a minor effort on my part produces a larger benefit to the other person which gives me a pleasant feeling doing something good, and that feeling is actually justified by the benefit received by the other person.</div><div><br></div><div>My guess is that the norm of holding doors for others indiscriminately may have arisen from that warm feeling of beneficence that at some point became unmoored from actually doing something good and became a form of virtue signaling. People hold doors open to feel good about themselves just as they mostly inconvenience rather than benefit others. A bit similar to the potlatch and excessive gift-giving in some cultures that puts onerous obligations of reciprocity on the recipients. </div><div><br></div><div>It's like when the local don insists on you taking generous gifts and drinking his best wine.... you know you cannot refuse and you wonder what he wants in return.</div><div><br></div><div>Rafal</div></div></div>