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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tara Maya via extropy-chat<br><b>..</b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>…I too suspect that consciousness is recursive, redundant (created by duplication of older systems in the nervous system to create new systems) and iterative or self-referential. I'm not sure how relevant it is to general intelligence; or maybe it's impossible to have sentience without it. To me, that is a great question which only another sentient species, or a zoo of them, could answer… Tara<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>OK so what if we start with something like a collection of untrained ChatGPTs, then introduce them to a chosen subset of text, such as… my own posts to ExI for the past 20 years, Tara you do likewise, or other text you have generated such as your writings. Then we allow the GPTs to browse the internet randomly or at their discretion. Then we have them debate each other, and in so doing, train each other. Would that be a kind of recursion?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What if a pristine ChatGPT is allowed to train on internet text at its discretion for a coupla weeks, then a copy is saved, then it is allowed to browse for two more. Then the two versions could debate itself. That would be self-referential in a way.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>