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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tara Maya via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] ai at science olympiad, was: RE: AI expert says Singularity only months away - not years<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>…Spike, are you willing to give tips on how to use ChatGPT to train? My 16 year old son is in AcaDec and training for a competition right now and his younger brother starts high school next year. I would love some idea how they could up their game. They are both highly motivated to learn and computer savvy…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Of course! Using ChatGPT to train: practice! Get on there, spend the time, every day. Learn how to use it most effectively by using it a lot. When these guys were given their assignments, agriculture science, they said “We don’t know Jack Shit about this topic, and Jack gave up and went home.” So… they just started where you would query an expert if you are utterly and completely un-self-conscious and don’t care if you look like a silly ignoramus. They started with “what is agriculture science.” It gave a pretty good answer, which led to the next question. The four of them (two teams) all went at it like madmen, eager to not look stupid. It worked. They were asking some very sophisticated questions by the end of the week, regarding crop cycling, soil conditioning, soil conservation, water use minimization, phosphorus control and conservation (that glob of seaweed business really has my wheels spinning (because phosphorus control is super important in agriculture (and a big part of your cost (depending on where you are.))))<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Advice: nothing complicated. Tell your boys: get on there, use it to the hilt, then in two weeks, you teach us what you did and how you did it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…I am working right now on how to use ChatGPT to write fiction. But so far, I haven't been impressed with its ability to pass on factual information. I tried to enlist its help to imagine a society set on a Superearth, but it didn't give consistent, factual information. What am I doing wrong?...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nothing. ChatGPT doesn’t know jack about that subject and Jack left already.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…How can kids use ChatGPT to study? Tara Maya<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Use it, use the hell out of it, then teach us how you did it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Fun aside Tara. Your boys and mine are nearly grown, but imagine a 6 year old child who is bright and clearly way beyond his paltry school curriculum aimed at the 40<sup>th</sup> percentile student. Write a story set in the now, about that child growing up as a new ChatGPT user, becoming a monster scholar, losing interest in school in his mid-teens (Eliezer did that (and look where he is now)) taking up programming AI, accidentally causing the singularity but not a mean uncaring singularity. Rather he creates an AI which is interested in bringing humanity along with it, to be the meat things who supply electricity and computer hardware, companionship to some extent, supply the transcendent AI with a steady supply of students… <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If you wish to run with that idea, go ahead, it’s yours. Say nice things about me when you make it into the big times.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 12, 2023, at 10:06 AM, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Our Science Olympiad team went all in with ChatGPT as a trainer. The other<br>good teams all have a regular Science Olympiad class during the school day<br>with a full time SciOly teacher and many multiple-year volunteer trainers<br>and coaches, but we don't. No budget for that. Our team is all<br>after-school, weekend, no regular trainers, volunteer staff only, all on<br>their own time. So we are always consigned to a kind of green paper<br>ceiling, a perpetual about 6th thru 8th in the district.<br><br>But this year, ChatGPT came along, four guys showed it is a marvelous<br>trainer by the two teams winning 2nd and 3rd in an area about which they<br>knew nada point nothing a week before. The rest of the team took it up,<br>trained with it for about 5 weeks, and yesterday, oooooh what a day we had,<br>my goodness, they were SCORCHED EARTH good yesterday, oh MERCY we put on a<br>whoop-ass tournament. We scored high enough in that event to qualify for<br>state level competition in April, ahead of perennial good teams such as Palo<br>Alto High. We... beat... Palo...freaking... Alto, such a good team they are<br>and have always been.<br><br>What did we do different this year? Used ChatGPT as our trainer. Perhaps<br>Paly is far too dignified for that sorta thing, hard to say, but they get a<br>chance to redeem themselves in a few weeks at state. Cool!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>