<div dir="ltr">Those in power have known about the potential for the Singularity for a long time.<div><br></div><div>But to believe there is a Cathedral is both incorrect and self-defeating. Those in power are nowhere near that unified - which is one of the keys to winning, when our interests conflict with theirs.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 8:25 AM Darin Sunley via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Looks like the Cathedral just noticed the Singularity, and they don't seem happy about it. That's a pretty thorough and comprehensive hatchet job. They're trying to get right to the root of the thing: i.e. us.<div><br></div><div>We seem to be transitioning from stage 2 to stage 3 of "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."</div><div><br></div><div>Interesting times.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 10:21 AM Max More via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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This series of seven posts is extremely interesting. Anyone with history on this email list will at least want to read part 1 and dip into the others. Eliezer comes in for a serious drubbing for the cultlike activities surrounding his interlinked communities
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